Tex_williams77 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Is the '90 Loyale supposed to be a dog? It's a manual, but it has a hard time getting to out of its own way. I also have a '94 Legacy Wagon and it puts the sportier lookng Loyale to shame. Was the engine in '90 just not comparable to the '94. There seems to be no mechanical symptoms to the lack of testicular fortitude, ie smoke, misfire, knocks, pings, none of it. It just doesn't go. If this is normal, what can I do to help persuade the car to go? After all, it has a spoiler it needs to go fast right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex_williams77 Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Also, are there any body kits out there to make that front bumper a little less ginormous looking? It's like they gave the thing some bumper Botox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Loyale and Legacy are 2 entirely different beasts. the EA82 in the Loyale only produces around 90 HP, versus the EJ22 in the Legacy producing around 135 hp about the only way to get the Loyale to "get out of it's own way" is to rev it higher between gear changes - peak torque is in the 3000 -3500 rpm range, got to hit at least that high to really do much with it. Reline isnt until 6500, so 4000 rpms is nothing to worry about. Oh, and Loyale discussion should be in the "older Gen" section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 ^^^like he said. the EA82 has only 90hp, but rev up to 4000+ RPMs before shifting, you might be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricearu Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 when i bought mine, the gas pedal was bent halfway to the floor. I mean it. I had a friend "floor it" with the engine off and i went around and opened the throttle the other half way. I reached down and grabbed the gas pedal and gave it a pull up until it was level with the brake pedal and the car doubled in horsepower. just a thought. But they are kinda dogs. Mine would smoke the hell out of the front tires in fwd. or at least one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 ^^^like he said. the EA82 has only 90hp, but rev up to 4000+ RPMs before shifting, you might be pleasantly surprised. umm, that would be "She" LOL ricearu, with my old FWD 5 spd wagon, I could get it to squawk the tires in 3 gears with just a little bit of effort. Some days I miss that old car, other days I am more appreciative of the nicer Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex_williams77 Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Thanks. Appreciate the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank B Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 There's a reason why swapping an EJ22 into Loyales is so popular. I've had 4 loyale body cars, two turbo, one carb and one spfi and even the turbo cars don't compare with my 96 legacy. Like the other members said, you have to drive it hard to get it going but for what it is, it is a pretty good car. I was getting 32 mpg in my last one, a 94 SPFI 5-speed. You got to drive it like this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 A front bumper from a 1985-86 Gl will bolt on to the loyale and fix the fat lip look. Look for the same body style as your car in the junkyard, doesn't matter if it's a coupe, wagon, or sedan, and find one with the turn signals flush with the front of the bumper instead of recessed in pockets like yours are. The fat lip bumper is due to the 5mph crash ratings requiring more metal and styrofoam in the bumper. The 90hp engine that the loyale has is pretty gutless, the car will top out right around 100mph. The upside is that they don't make enough power to hurt themselves so they go for ever. There's a reason the engine swap from a legacy into a loyale is so popular. One other thing to check for is the plastic rectangle that says SPFI that fits into the top of the rubber intake tube that goes from the airbox to the throttle body. If that is missing the rubber tube can collapse at higher engine rpms and choke the engine's power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 umm, that would be "She" ha ha... sorry! I wondered if that was the case but couldn't remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwtech Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 yeah theres a huge difference between my 96 legacy 2.2 and my 91 loyale 1.8 both 5 speeds, the loyale i beat the hell out of, 7 hour road trips, mountian roads dirt, snow, mud, push button 4x4 184,000 miles on it I put 50,000 miles on it in 2 years, its a beast but its taking a much needed rest now as im driving my legacy with 252,000 on the odomoter and building a fresh 2.2 for it, also good tip WoodsWagon- One other thing to check for is the plastic rectangle that says SPFI that fits into the top of the rubber intake tube that goes from the airbox to the throttle body. If that is missing the rubber tube can collapse at higher engine rpms and choke the engine's power. mine is actually missing, I never thought of that being a stiffener of some sort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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