mizumo head bolts

[Ricearu]

I was thinking of buying this gasket set

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/90-98-2-2L-Subaru-Impreza-Legacy-EJ22E-Head-Gasket-Set-Bolts-/360433477246?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53eb82667e&vxp=mtr

 

then tossing the headgaskets and using dealer head gaskets.

 

are the head bolts worth two shoots?

 

same thing here

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Gasket-Set-Head-Bolts-Subaru-Forester-Impreza-Legacy-2-5-Liter-EJ25-DOHC-/260854360106?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cbc21a82a&vxp=mtr

 

 

I have two subarus with engines apart and NOT alot of cash to work with... Any Ideas fellas?

[Quidam]

Today, I would have opted for new headbolts. I solvent cleaned a set, wire wheeled them, then solvent cleaned them again. Eah, time consuming...and three I'd just like to toss.

 

Doug

[idosubaru]

don't waste your money on those kits. head bolts are not replaced on any EJ (or any Subaru for that matter).

 

if your goal is inexpensive - then buy Subaru headgaskets and intake manifold gaskets and get it done as soon as possible. aftermarket exhaust manifold gaskets suck - they'll probably hold fine if you sand the engine and grind the exhaust nice and flat, but the Subaru gaskets are much better and hold up longer. heck - often times they're reusable.

 

valve cover gaskets timing belts, etc, are easy enough to replace in the car anyway.

 

you could still get valve cover gaskets and grommets and come in under that price too.

 

rockauto.com has great prices sometimes if you can weave their shipping together.

 

advance auto parts has some great coupon codes online too - 20% off, etc if you look.

[Ricearu]

the stock head bolts are torque to yield and non reusable. Shouldn't they not be reused? That is what every FSM and manual has EVER said.

 

I am not trying to argue, I just want real world experience. Do you torque them back to stock specs per the manual or do you go a little tighter because of the previous stretch?

Edited June 28, 2012 by Ricearu

[johnceggleston]

That is what every FSM and manual has EVER said.

i challenge you to provide that information. where does subaru say that?

 

maybe all OTHER car makers say that, but where does subaru say it? show me.

 

you torque according to the FSM procedure, no more , no less.

Edited June 28, 2012 by johnceggleston

[idosubaru]

the stock head bolts are torque to yield and non reusable.

that is incorrect. for Subaru's you always reuse the bolts. replacing the bolts is as good as throwing money away.

 

as Doug mentioned the nice thing with new headbolts is that you don't have to clean them, which is really time consuming and gets old quick. but it's not required.

 

That is what every FSM and manual has EVER said.

there's your hang up - Subaru never made a motor with TTY bolts that require replacement. so i'm not sure where that comment stems from. call the dealer - they'll say the same thing.

 

Do you torque them back to stock specs per the manual or do you go a little tighter because of the previous stretch?

go by the manual no need to add anything to it.

[Ricearu]

thanks guys. I really appreciate the help. I must be mixed up or retarded.

[idosubaru]

thanks guys. I really appreciate the help. I must be mixed up or retarded.

lots of folks think that so it must be common for other manufacturers/engines. since i only know Subaru's i would be clueless about anything else....i'd be reusing bolts the first time i have to do some non-subaru unless folks like you asked this question a lot!