soobie_newbie67 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 On my 1996 2.2 legacy, car fax says the timing belt was last replaced at 106000 miles. I know you can't say a timing belt is good just by looking at it.what things should I look for to determine whether or not I should replace my belt????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Has it been more than 7 years? Has it been more than 60k miles? If you can answer yes to either one, replace the belt and all idlers and water pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobie_newbie67 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) ************. Yes to both xD Hey. Um. Is the ej22 interference or not??? Edited September 22, 2012 by soobie_newbie67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 ************. Yes to both xDHey. Um. Is the ej22 interference or not??? 96 2.2 is non-interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Well that depends on if it's a 96 model year or a 96 build date. Cars built after 6/96 are 97 model years which are interference. The timing belt spec was upped to 105 a couple years later, so with it having the belt already replaced it should be good to 210k miles. The gamble is whether they replaced the tensioner, idlers and the water pump at 105k, or if they put just a belt on it. The idlers are what commonly fail, so asking them to go 200k is a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Well that depends on if it's a 96 model year or a 96 build date. Cars built after 6/96 are 97 model years which are interference. I've heard this, but never been able to confirm. I can't find any differences between any of the single port EJ22 heads I've examined. Although I didn't compare Cams in any excact way, they just look the same. Do you or anyone else have some confirmation on the interference aspect? To me it seems they didn't change til the Phase II engines in 99-2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Believe me, I've seen enough grenaded '97-98 EJ22s to confirm, they ARE interferential. I forget exactly what they changed (I think one thing is the length of the piston skirt), but that date is correct. Also consider how extreme the climate is: very dry/hot conditions wreak havoc on rubber. Also extremes of hot to cold to hot. Emily www.ccrengines.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Apparently they changed the piston crown to boost compression. Removed the recesses for the valves that were in the earlier pistons. I've read that the change was in late 96 or early 97. But nobody seems to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobie_newbie67 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Help please. I can't find the build date on my car. I'm used to finding it on the door sticker but it's not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Aluminum plate riveted on top of the left front strut tower under the hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) look for the build date on the the sticker on the bottom of the driver door. they put them there for a while. i didn't think the id plate had the build date on it, but it may. but unless you are ordering pistons you don't need it. 97 is an interference engine and the timing belt interval is 60k miles. there is a 105k, california belt, you can use, but eve if it was used last time, were the idlers replaced??? the failure of any part the belt touches will cause valve damage $$$$. change it all now and don't worry about it for 60k miles. replace the timing belt, all the idlers, and the water pump. the 97 should have the old style 2 part tensioner, hydraulic piston and separate idler. the idler should be replaced the piston is probably good. but if it is leaking or not working properly , replace it. you can get good quality parts for a fair price on ebay from ''theimportexperts''. i would re-use the bolts that are on your car. and torque to spec. DO NOT over torque the bolts. Edited September 24, 2012 by johnceggleston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobie_newbie67 Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Alright. So production date is August 9th 1996 so my engine is interference. Any timing belts kits you guys recommend??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Post your vin and we will know exactly what year and which engine code it has. Tenth digit of the VIN is the year. If its a 96 model it should be a T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Alright. So production date is August 9th 1996 so my engine is interference. Any timing belts kits you guys recommend??? you can get good quality parts for a fair price on ebay from ''theimportexperts''. i would re-use the bolts that are on your car. and torque to spec. DO NOT over torque the bolts. replace the timing belt, all the idlers, and the water pump. the 97 should have the old style 2 part tensioner, hydraulic piston and separate idler. the idler should be replaced the piston is probably good. but if it is leaking or not working properly , replace it. the piston style tensioners do not fail often. Edited September 24, 2012 by johnceggleston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobie_newbie67 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Engine vin is 3. I got the precise production date through the dealer. He said is interference and so does the production date since after 6/1996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobie_newbie67 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Bumping for a recommendation please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 i must be invisible. maybe i'll go rob a bank or sneak into Angelina Jolie's dressing room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobie_newbie67 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Yeah. I looked up those import experts guys, but couldn't find the kit. Link please. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Google is your friend. http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=370597036231 These guys also have a good timing kit. Comes with oil seals, and an Aisin water pump that comes with an OE style gasket. http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=260925109309 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palfer Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 does anyone have the torque specs handy for the idlers and tensioner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 does anyone have the torque specs handy for the idlers and tensioner? i've never used a torque wrench on those, but there's zillions of FSM's online for free, i'd just get one with the timing belt procedure and hvae it on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 does anyone have the torque specs handy for the idlers and tensioner? http://www.main.experiencetherave.com/subaru_manual_scans/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 does anyone have the torque specs handy for the idlers and tensioner? also here: http://jdmfsm.info/Auto/Japan/Subaru/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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