Hogsubie Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 To start, I have a 1981 DL 4wd wagon... I ran out of gas today and while trying to move the car off the road, I couldn't push it myself so I cranked it while letting out the clutch, a couple times. I didn't do it for very long. After I get gas and get on my way, all the idiot lights are on and the car dies on me while driving, I can restart it and go aways more but then dies on me again. Also I hear a whirring noise where the pitch goes up and down with the revs. The sound is coming from around the alt area, can't get too close with the belt and fans going. I bought a reman alternator at Autozone on the way home, my wife had to pick me up. I had to leave the car parked at the grocery store. Before I install the new one I'm going to have the old one tested. I'll go get it tomorrow after work with a tow dolly. Any tips for towing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I can't tell you why the idiot lights are on, but the excessive noise might be bad alternator bearings. I really have no idea, but thought I'd give it a stab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasteland Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 While your at it I would replace the voltage reg. it should be external on a '81 and may be the cause of both the dummy lights and the start but not run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 The warning lights are in series with the field wire of the alternator. If something causes a problem with the alternator charging then these lights will glow. If one of the rectifiers goes out, these lights will glow slightly at idle. It sounds like something has really failed in your charging system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogsubie Posted April 2, 2004 Author Share Posted April 2, 2004 Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogsubie Posted April 3, 2004 Author Share Posted April 3, 2004 Well, it turns out my alternator was bad. I had it tested earlier and left it at the store for my core refund. I installed the new alt and took it for a drive, no idiot lights,no stalling, and no funny noises. Atleast no new funny noises, all the old funny noises are still making noises. The only problem I had was getting the long bolt on the left side by the air filter housing to thread back into the bolt/bracket thing. I couldn't do it, so I turned it around and was able to get it to thread on tight. The threads on the bolt were pretty bunged up so the wouldn't catch. Wasteland mentioned the Voltage regulator, I haven't checked it yet becuase I don't know what it looks like. The haynes manual shows it taken apart but not put together or where it's located. I think it's just behind the coil, can anyone help me out on it's location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Glad you got it fixed. Thanks for the feedback. Sorry I can't help with the location of the regulator but it seems it is ok at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbrand Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 My experience from My 1980 4wd wagon. The output of the alternator is used to keep the fuel pump going( a crash safety shut off thing). So if alt quits then fuel pump is shut off. So perhaps you did not actually run out of gas, even though symtoms the same? I had an intermittent alt that drove me nuts on way home one night, would work for 1-5 minutes before shutting down and having to coast off road. But in "start" position the pump operates so could get going. FINALLY figured out what was going on and had wife bring me tools and a piece of wire to hot wire the fuel pump to get me home. I replaced regulator but took the alternator replace to fix it. I also wired up an override switch to at least be able run on battery power, and two years later was used when my belt broke in traffic. Kept going until could pull off and replace with the spare I always carried. As far as location of regulator, I believe it was on fenderwall near front corner-cont remeber if on drivers side near the jack or behind the battery on pass side. Again, this was on my 1980, dont know if applys to 1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 On a 1981, the voltage regulator is behind the battery, near the coil, screwed to the inner side of the fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83dldude Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Yours has an elecrtic fuel pump right? I would check the wiring to the pump if the problem comes back, i had the same symptoms once, and it was a bad electrical connector at the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogsubie Posted April 5, 2004 Author Share Posted April 5, 2004 I replaced the alternator Friday night. I drove the car on Sat, Sun, and today to work. I haven't had any other problems so I;m pretty sure it was just the alternator. Honestly I don't know if my 81 has an electric fuel pump or not. Thanks though for your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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