naldo Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 okay so i get my part tomorrow lets see if it starts if not i will let you guys know as soon as possible,,, as the trigger marks in the sprocket i am still searching a picture to compare the two and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 here is the backside of a cam - see there are trigger points all around the circumference. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Subaru-2-5-DOHC-Camshaft-Gear-Cam-Gear-Sproket-Impreza-Forester-Outback-/221221780795?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3381d87d3b&vxp=mtr yours will look different and has hash marks instead of circles, but the idea is the same. you just need to look at them. if your two cam sprockets are different then the timing marks are off and the cams sprockets need switched. same goes for crank - except it has tabs instead of points like this. here is a crank gear with the tabs/ears sticking out. again - they have to be identical or swap them: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUBARU-2-5L-ENGINE-CRANK-TIMING-BELT-GEAR-1995-2005-XX-2-F20271-/190770975930?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6ad614ba&vxp=mtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 okay so put in a new ignition coil and still no spark everything is connected right and in working order but for some reason i am not getting electricity to my spark plugs does any body know if the cam sprocket for a 2006 DOCH ej25 are different from a 2005 SOCH ej25 if not i am just going to put my soch heads on my doch engine and stop messing with it because i don't got that much money to spend around to figure this out Like i said its is not getting electricity to my spark plugs i dont have those fancy computers to plug in into the dash and it doesn't turn on so i cannot take it to autozone to chechk the engine light any opinion on this ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 okay its there any instruction around on how to switch this two cam sprocket how will i set them equal to the same timing on them do they use the same line for time or it has to be set up with different timing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 yours is a JDM engine so i'm unsure....i don't know if the JDM engine sprockets will swap or not... you want to count/compare the sprockets first, to make sure you know what the issue is and what you need. the cam sprockets have a key way and only install one way, so no worries on setting them or timing. remove the timing belt with all the timing marks lined up so that it's in a noninterference position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 okay thanks but i am just gonna swap the heads i found a cheap place to fix the other ones i am just swap them By chance do you know the torque that the bolts have from the head to the block ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It's a lot easier to swap the timing sprockets than it is to swap heads. Have you tried swapping the crank and cam sensors? Possible one of those is bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 i did swap the sensors but still nothing Are you sure about swapping the cams that it will work because i dont want to do that then if it dosent work i still will have to swap heads Now i am just trying to find a place that will sell me the trubo head gasket i found some on ebay but i cannot differentiate from a trubo one to regular one Any suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 If swapping sprockets does not work, swapping the heads will not fix it either. You need to swap both the crank sprocket and the upper cam sprocket on the left side. (The one the sensor reads) I'd also like to ask before you go pulling more stuff apart, have you checked all of the fuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 yup all the fuses are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 okay so i got a big problem the motor is in and everything in working order it started and everything it has the SOCH heads on the block for some reason the head on the passenger side is leaking out water Any guesses keep in mind I torqued the bolts is it possible that the bolts a not torque correctly and leaking water because the head on the driver side is not leaking water at all it is the passenger side only . My spark plugs are clean and not soaked OR Can it be that the block seal is damage and leaking water when is been compress ?? any Guesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I think there is a plug on the bottom of the head that goes into the water jacket. If that's loose it will leak. Are you sure the leak is from the bottom and not water dripping down the back from the top? You need to poke around with a good flashlight and get a better idea of exactly where the leak is coming from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 it only starts to leak when i start the car and to me it looked like oil coming out from the head cover but the mechanic that help me was saying that the head cover where leaking oil and water i dont know i am going to tighten everything together and see if it stops leaking and check those plugs that you told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 pistons are different on jdm motor have taller crowns that go up into the combustion chamber i did run one of those engines on a 98 outback wire harness worked good but had no vvt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 i have no problem with the piston it is just like i said the oil or oil with water coming out of the head covers when started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 okay so finally figure out why it was leaking the head cover were loose now its running fine i think i got a bad spark plug cable because when i start the car it will shut off right after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Glad to hear that it runs, that's a start. Make sure you have all the vacuum hoses connected, and all of the hoses for the breather and PCV system that connect to the intake tube. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 okay so everything good the only problem is that my RPM are low they are around 500 not even at a 1000 when the car starts it will start right up but then the RPm fall very low Other problem was that my EGR valve sound like something is scratching inside my Engine light was on and it said that the MAP sensor was bad Any ideas why my RPM are so low and it does it when i am in parking on or a stop in a light sometimes it will shut off on me because of the low RPM but when its running it does not shut off at all it drives fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 If you have a MAP sensor code either the MAP sensor is unplugged or the vacuum hose isn't connected properly. A vacuum leak would also cause the low idle condition. Double check all the vacuum hoses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Thanks I found out that my fuel injectors are sucking in air due to that I change the o rings on them to universal ones I bought the original ones probably will get them today and I found a hose that was leaking air too my rpm are more calm but still they need a little improvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hey guys I have been running my forester for about 3 weeks now n I love it this project wouldn't have been possible without you guys I appreciated for the help. hopefully I can post some pic up so you guys can see the car thanks for everything I will keep in touch with any upgrades that I do on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkankinPickle Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Can u give us a final run down of everything you did to get the JDM N/A DOHC 2.5 w/ avcs running? Edited June 4, 2013 by SkankinPickle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 okay so my 05 Forester had a bad SOCH EJ25 motor the engine had leaked water to the piston and my headgasket were blew I bought a JDM DOCH EJ25 that it was suppose to be from 2000 n up didnt quiet figure what year exactly when i got it i try to put the new engine as it came but the wiring harness was different because my engine had a electrical throttle body and the engine that i got was cable those two throttle body are not interchangeable at least where they attach to the manifold So from electrical to cable throttle body the entire wiring harness changes i did manege to put my original SOCH intake manfold on the new DOCH engine with the original wiring harness ,, there were two extra cam sensor that the soch wiring harness doesn't have for the DOCH motor some guys told me i didnt need them so i plug the JDM motor into the car and everything fit in right ,,the only problem that i encounter was that the timing on the cam from the DOCH are different from the SOCH so the engine wont start since the ECU is reading different timing One option that i had was to change the cam from the DOCH engine to my original ones from the SOCH or put my SOCH heads on the DOCH engine I eventually took out the DOCH heads from the new motor and put the SOCH heads from the bad motor which i took to the machine shop to fix and put everything together again and plug in everything The engine started like i champ and is currently running perfect so eventually what i figure out that the DOCH motor wont start on a SOCH car ECU because of the timing on the cam unless you switch the cam to the originals or change the motor from DOCH to SOCH heads You can also change the ECU and cables but it was too expensive for me That is my rundown of what i did on the motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 So after all of that, what did it cost you? Just money invested as if we consider all of your time the bill would be crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naldo Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Actually it was not that expensive I bought the car for 1800 the New motor cost me 900 with 45000 miles shipped to my house n the machine shop was 250 bucks so in total the forester comes at 3300 for a 05 forester not bad n the little things like oil n belts it was all done DIY n it was my first ever subaru repair they are not that bad cars to work on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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