espey_16 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I have to r&r the tranny in my dads 91 Legacy wagon. Its an automatic. Yesterday I pulled an auto tranny from a 90 legacy sedan and when I got it home I noticed the diff dipstick on the 90 tranny was taller than the 91 tranny. So my question is, what are the differences between these two trannys, and is it a direct swap? Both trannys have a rear gear ratio of 4.111. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 as long as the years you quoted are correct, it is a direct swap. no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Ok cool thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 When pulling the tranny, are you supposed to remove the torque converter at the same time? I've never pulled an auto before. I got the tranny out last night, but the input shaft is still sticking out of the tc. The tranny I pulled from the junk yard came out easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Yes you should remove the torque converter with the transmission. Search here for how to properly seat the torque converter (there is a good thread with pictures somewhere on this forum) before trying to install the transmission. You need to get the converter seated properly first, otherwise it will damage the fluid pump in the transmission, and your "new" trans will be a boat anchor. Also do not drop the converter when removing it from the flex plate! It is only partially supported by the pilot stub in the center. Edited June 6, 2013 by Fairtax4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 How am I supposed to get that shaft out of the torque converter? I'm about ready to have my dad go get a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 This is my problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Nice! That stayed in the new trans correct? Vice grip the end, smack the vice grips upward with a big hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prwa101 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Ohhh nice!! Never seen that one yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Yikes. Nothing to do but pull on that sucka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Yeah, it didn't stick in the tc from the doner car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 You can swap out the unstuck TC and input shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 I could, but my dad had this one installed along with a new flexplate a year or so ago. Mabey I should just do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 oh the wonderfull 4eat ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 I got the input shaft out of the tc, but I cant get it to seat in the tranny. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I've been reading this thread http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/79130-how-to-seat-your-torque-converter-by-mnwolftrack/page-2?hl=%20torque%20%20converter over and over again for the last 2 hours and can't get the tc past the first stop. What's goin on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 i spin it and push inwards gentaly take a lot of time somtime to get it to seat make shure tc extetion is cliped to tc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Yeah I tried again for a couple hours yesterday, still no dice. I don't know what the deal is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 take it back out try the shaft in the torque make shure will go in off the trans also is shaft right way round ? check closly all splines for damge check sealing rings close for damge you could try install without shaft in trans just to see whats hanging up check the spline one fixed stator spline easy to damge the splines Try and figure out what part of its hanging up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Ok yeah ill try to install it without the shaft and see if it'll go on then go from there. Thanks for the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 any luck ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 No, wouldn't even go on without the extention. I wonder if I messed up the tc when I removed the tranny. Might have to go get the tc off the car I got the tranny from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Did you check fixed stator spline the large one of front of trans look very close for craks or deformation sounds like its damaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espey_16 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yeah, everything looked good, I think it might be something in the tc itself. Friday I'm gonna go get the tc from the donor car and see if that will work. If not, ill return that tranny and pull another one. The right way this time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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