1-3-2-4 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 The one for the engine block heater.. I've tried heat and I tried using a 3lb hammer and hitting the plug sideways and it still wont move at all.. Did the plug win? Any other tips I should use before I give up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 That's weird man, mine will come unplugged without a fuss. I've had it loose a few times rerouting it so I could actually use the thing. Do you have a picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 I will get a picture.. what I can't understand is why both plugs are not the same time.. why is it on with almost 200 Ft.lbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Here are the pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Coolant + steel + aluminum = major stuck. Soak it in PB, clean the crud out of the center, use a half inch drive socket and breaker bar. Put pressure on the bar and then smack the bar with the 3lb hammer about 6" from the socket. Do that a few times and make sure the socket doesn't slip out and round out the plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 It's pretty rounded out now, no? They say JB wield will just break off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 If its already rounded out you could try a big pipe wrench or vice grips. You may have to just leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Only other way I can think of is to file down notches to my next size hex socket and try again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Chisel,air or otherwise would be much easier. Make an indentation by holding it at 90 degrees . Once there is something to grip,angle the chisel 45 degrees or so to spin the plug. Hitting as close to the OD as you dare will give the greatest turning torque. Blows will help penetrating oil penetrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 See all those marks? Well those were from a flat head screw driver but still it's hard to hit from the OD without ending up hitting too deep.. I will spray with a little more kroil and then if that does not work then I will just have to file the plug to the next size and use the impact wrench on it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruparts Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 The one for the engine block heater.. I've tried heat and I tried using a 3lb hammer and hitting the plug sideways and it still wont move at all.. Did the plug win? Any other tips I should use before I give up? hi, i can see from that picture you have no chance to get that out by conventional means,, i DO think you can weld a BIG nut on it something like a axle nut for instance,, no jb weld ,,actually electric arc weld and weld it good ,, a nut too big to strip and use a 6 point socket & big breaker bar on that. the heat from the weld job will likely help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'm still going to try a chisel on it, I'm not going to wield on it (Can't at my location) because I don't want a stray arc to end up messing up the bearings and fusing them to the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Oh, I completely misunderstood which part you were working on. Do you already have the heads on the motor? If not you can easily spray pb on the threads on the inside of the motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 I haven't taken the heads off, I did not notice that it could be sprayed from the inside of the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yeah, you can get to it through the lower coolant passage of below the cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 You know the gasket that should be on the plug heater.. well it's pretty much crumbled, and I'm looking right now but I don't see a replacement part number on the gasket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Picked up a hard cap chisel in 1/2" at least I will have a wider serface area to bite into and for the striking end as well.. too many missed blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Is the gasket around the block heater a metal o-ring type thing. I wonder if one of the rings from the wrist pin access holes would be the same size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Weld a big nut to it like a axle nut the heat will breakup the stock glue and you will have a larger surface to put socket on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 If I ever do it it would have to be with the engine in the car, as I said before my car is in a open parking lot.. besides I heard you can damage your crank bearings just going to town doing a wield like this because of stray currents so I don't want to risk that.. now I did take off the drivers head and sprayed kroil down where the plug is.. but does it have another passage way? It seemed to not fill up but seemed to be draining to another area of the motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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