Mr.Atlantis Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hello all, I have some concerns regarding the TSK1 quill repair kit. Transmission is off my car, on a bench and awaiting some feedback on whether or not to even install the thing. It has significant play between the sleeve and throw-out bearing inner surface. Enough play to render the entire repair kit useless - as it will destroy the new repair sleeve and clutch assembly after just a few thousand miles i'm sure. I have already ordered 2 from the Subaru dealership and both are bad in my opinion. I do understand that once the grease is applied it will tighten this play up, but not 0.030" - and not to mention, the grease won't stay for that long anyway. As of now I'm convinced that the TSK1 repair sleeve kit is useless and will only do more damage to my transmission. This is all very upsetting to me because apparently these repair sleeves are supposed to be great. I've heard nothing but good reviews. Perhaps I received two bad ones in a row? What are the odds - or am I just crazy and the huge amount of play is normal? Someone please let me know if these are all normal issues when dealing with this after market part. I have already pulled the transmission out twice in one month because of throw-out bearing issues. My Subaru 2008 Outback Legacy 2.5l Non-turbo (5MT) 88,000 mi Stock I have attached some images in order to convey my issue... Image Index Image 1 (TSK1 - A1): Inner bearing surface showing proud/positive material Image 2 (TSK1 - A2): Close up of inner bearing surface Image 3 (TSK1 - B1): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 4 (TSK1 - B2): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 5 (TSK1 - B3): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 6 (TSK1 - B4): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 7 (TSK1 - C1): Showing play between sleeve and inner bearing surface Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Atlantis Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) I would like to add, that when the kit is installed on my transmission and I push the fork in order to simulate the motions - It sometimes binds on the repair sleeve due to the huge amount of play I mentioned earlier (See Image 7: TSK1 - C1). I would also like to add that I do have the correct part for my model Subaru (TSK1). When ordering I was even asked to verify using my VIN. Edited July 2, 2014 by Mr.Atlantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 That is a normal amount of play. This is not meant to be a close fit/ tight tolerance area. If the tolerance is too tight dust/dirt/sand etc can get between the TOB and quill and cause it to jam. The wider tolerance also helps keep more grease between the TOB and quill. The main advantage to the sleeve is that its made of steel, so it will not wear as the TOB ages. The aluminum quill on the transmission can wear 5-10 times more than the amount of play you have on the steel sleeve. Put some anti-seize on it and put it back together, It will be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Atlantis Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 I now have 93,000 mi. on my Outback and the TSK1 has held up so far. I would like to add that after pulling the Transmission, my car has never driven quite the same. Though, there could be another underlying issue that I have yet to notice. Either way, my review: TSK1 Worked fine and bearing seems to be made of a stronger material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thanks for the update and information on the clutch repair kit. I will likely get one of these when I replace the clutch in my 97 Impreza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I've used a couple and they work fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBA-ZC6 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 7/3/2014 at 7:46 AM, Mr.Atlantis said: I would like to add, that when the kit is installed on my transmission and I push the fork in order to simulate the motions - It sometimes binds on the repair sleeve due to the huge amount of play I mentioned earlier (See Image 7: TSK1 - C1). I would also like to add that I do have the correct part for my model Subaru (TSK1). When ordering I was even asked to verify using my VIN. On 7/3/2014 at 7:42 AM, Mr.Atlantis said: Hello all, I have some concerns regarding the TSK1 quill repair kit. Transmission is off my car, on a bench and awaiting some feedback on whether or not to even install the thing. It has significant play between the sleeve and throw-out bearing inner surface. Enough play to render the entire repair kit useless - as it will destroy the new repair sleeve and clutch assembly after just a few thousand miles i'm sure. I have already ordered 2 from the Subaru dealership and both are bad in my opinion. I do understand that once the grease is applied it will tighten this play up, but not 0.030" - and not to mention, the grease won't stay for that long anyway. As of now I'm convinced that the TSK1 repair sleeve kit is useless and will only do more damage to my transmission. This is all very upsetting to me because apparently these repair sleeves are supposed to be great. I've heard nothing but good reviews. Perhaps I received two bad ones in a row? What are the odds - or am I just crazy and the huge amount of play is normal? Someone please let me know if these are all normal issues when dealing with this after market part. I have already pulled the transmission out twice in one month because of throw-out bearing issues. My Subaru 2008 Outback Legacy 2.5l Non-turbo (5MT) 88,000 mi Stock I have attached some images in order to convey my issue... Image Index Image 1 (TSK1 - A1): Inner bearing surface showing proud/positive material Image 2 (TSK1 - A2): Close up of inner bearing surface Image 3 (TSK1 - B1): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 4 (TSK1 - B2): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 5 (TSK1 - B3): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 6 (TSK1 - B4): Showing play between inner and out bearing surfaces Image 7 (TSK1 - C1): Showing play between sleeve and inner bearing surface Kind regards Thank you for the valuable information. I know the original post was made 8 years ago but the information shared still holds value and importance as the snout repair is now widely recognized. I was astonished when I first found that such a solution as PDM TSK1 existed. Despite the fact that the kit has been around for over a decade, I could only find very limited numbers of reviews. Doing an extends research, I found out that the throw out bearing supposed to come in the kit is Toyota 31230-32060. The bearing height and the outter diameter of the lip is similar to that of a BRZ TOB. Unfortunately, the actual kit seems to be using a Chinese imitation of the Toyota OEM TOB. I have decided to source out a TOB locally and just use the sleeve from a Clutch Pro kit or measure up the diameter of a Toyota OEM TOB retainer and get one custom made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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