EJ22 5 Speed swap in a 97 EJ25D 4EAT OBW

[pginter96]

Im getting an EJ22 long block (with any luck, if its not actually junk in person) on tuesday. Buying it with a few things in mind-

1) flip it

2) build it and flip it

3) swap it in my car if and when the head gaskets go (what Im hoping to do)

4) (most realistic) begin teardown and have it sit in my garage until Im through college

 

Just toying with the trans swap idea for now. I was wondering what a 5 speed swap would need if I put the 22 in. What to take the trans from, wiring/modules, how to rig up clutch assembly, driveshaft/driveline...

Id imagine someone here has done this before, what can you tell me about both an EJ25D to EJ22 swap, and the trans swap?

 

What I know about the EJ22

-approximately 140k

-OBDII

-Long block w/ accessories (except alternator)

-Phase I heads, single port.

 

The person I am buying it from is someone I fairly trust (same guy that was offered me that interesting 95 LSi with WRX drivetrain and a JDM STi 5 speed if anyone was following that thread a few days ago, he decided not to sell) bought this in a package deal with a JDM STI 5 speed, used the trans and simply has no use for the engine. He was told it was running, just taken out of a vehicle that had been wrecked. I can always ask him for advice, hes had 4 EJ22 second gen Legacies. Just wondering if anyone else had any valuable input. Im looking at the engine on tuesday, what should I be looking for (besides the norms)?

Hes asking $250, but Im thinking of seeing if he'll take $200 cash simply because none of us know if it runs.

 

Worth mentioning:

I will be starting college next month for a Chrysler training program, and I work in a Dodge dealer. I already have over $6000 worth of Snap-On tools, I just lack in time and experience. Especially experience. The only other engines Ive torn down was helping my buddy build a Dodge 360 small block, and a 4.0L jeep six in auto tech class for school. This is my first Subaru, and really my first in-depth experience with something that isnt Mopar related.

Apart from that, I have absolutely no transmission experience. Automatics are still witchcraft to me, I just know the names of some parts. Ive never even seen the inside of a manual.

 

So... A daily driver, two engines, (maybe) two transmissions, $6,000 worth of tools, and no experience. What could possibly go wrong...

 

Keep in mind apart from loking at the engine on tuesday, this isnt exactly a pressing matter for me, I wouldnt be doing a swap until my EJ25D catastrauphically failed in some way, or until I have another car and can afford a project.

[johnceggleston]

your best solution is to buy a wrecked car that has all the parts you need.

 

the trans swap includes lots of parts and it is really nice to have the whole car to work with.

that way you are guaranteed to have the parts you need.

and you would get the engine free, sort of.

 

the only problem with this idea is that all ej22 cars 95 - 98 w MT have a 3.9 final drive ratio.

the outback, GT and LSi cars with the ej25 have a 4.11 ratio MT.

and with the lower HP in the ej22 the 4.11 would be a better match.

 

but at least with the manual trans you can just hold the gear longer before you shift.

Edited August 22, 2014 by johnceggleston

[pginter96]

Hmm... Thats what I was worried about, all different drivetrain. What about just an engine swap?

[johnceggleston]

 

What about just an engine swap?

 

what about it?

the easiest swap into a 97 obw ej25 in order of preference:

95 ej22 w/ EGR , usually from an auto trans car.

96 - 97 ej22 w/ EGR , usually from an auto trans car.  you will need the matching exhaust y-pipe.

98 ej22 w/ EGR , usually from an auto trans car.  you will need the matching exhaust y-pipe. and the intake manifold off of a 95 - 97 ej22 car w/ EGR.