subbybot Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So I have had a recurring problem with my 1990 loyale not wanting to start. It was intermittent but got worse as time went on. Symptom: When car was hot or from a cold start, when I turned the key I would hear a clicking sound coming from the engine compartment. I would turn the key over and over again until it would finally turn over (sometimes it would take 50 times!). Car would run fine after starting. Attempts to Fix: Replaced coolant temperature sensor: A lot of posts on these causing hot starting issues. Did not fix the problem. Replaced starter: nope. Cleaned all battery connections and connections to starter: didn't fix problem Changed out battery and replaced with new one: still had same issues Actual Fix: After reading up on the USMB forums and on other toyota forums I discovered that the early Subarus do not have starter relays. As the wiring gets older and more worn out, the power going to the starter diminishes. The fix is to put a relay in between the starter and the ignition. Some people recommend buying a cheap headlight relay and wiring it in yourself. You can look up starter relay or ignition relay yourself to find instructions. Not being a mechanic myself, I chose this kit: Bosch WR1 Starter Relay Kit http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-WR1-Starter-Relay/dp/B001COAX78 The kit comes with a relay, all the wires, and easy to follow instructions including a wiring diagram. It took me 20 minutes to wire up and made the whole process a breeze. Mystery Solved! Starts up without hesitation. For $25.00 this was a cheap and painless fix (once I figured out the actual problem) Hope this helps some of my fellow vintage sub owners. Peace! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/148005-ignition-switch-relay-replacement/ Just did this myself. Exact problem. Followed a link in the thread, total cost $8 at advanced auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooner Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Excellent write up of a problem and then a fix with a parts link. I applaud you sir! Great job, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopsoop Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 i will try this but i have no power at all to the solinoid wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Ah, this won't fix it if nothing gets to that wire. That wire connects to the coil of the relay you add . But it should be easier to find the open connection than the high resistance and / or intermittent connection that typically causes the click / no crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopsoop Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 fixed the problem. i put a used ign. switch and ran a new wire to the solinoid,now it works fine. the reason they had problems was the lights would stay on so they bypassed the last fusable link and ran two wires inside to a cheap switch,that's all gone now it starts with the ignition switch i just need the fusable link i think it was the black one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregbakos Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 just wanted so say you saved another Subaru with this thread! thank you guys after replacing literally everything else in the ignition system, (three starters, ignition switch, ignition coil, tune up, batteries, alternator, grounds) this was the ticket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Sometimes it’s the simple things that cause the most grief (and wallet pain!). This relay mod is common on the early Liberty/Legacy’s too Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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