loyale1993 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 So I recently replaced my oil pump seals and gaskets because I had the tic of death... I still have it!? It isn't constant but has been happening after I run the car on the highway for about 20 minutes. It goes away when I exit and get to speed on the road towards my house. Anybody have some ideas on why this is happening? Any remedies short of removing the oil pump again? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Seals and gaskets? Did you replace the shaft seal? The shaft seal on a 93 should have been Viton from Subaru. Only use the viton seal. You may be sucking air at the shaft seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yes I replaced the shaft seal, an O ring and the mickey mouse gasket. I'm not sure of the brand of the shaft seal. It was a kit from partsgeek.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It may take a good bit of driving before it finally stops. Like a couple hundred miles. I've never timed it. But it has not been as simple as reseal oil pump, start, and it's gone instantly. At least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 It may take a good bit of driving before it finally stops. Like a couple hundred miles. I've never timed it. But it has not been as simple as reseal oil pump, start, and it's gone instantly. At least for me. I hope so Dave. I've driven it about 300-500 miles so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Viton is the material, not a brand. It tolerates higher temperatures. Viton is not black in color, kind of brownish with these seals. You did not mention the mileage or if the oil pump shaft was worn in the way of groove(s). Find a different vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Viton is the material, not a brand. It tolerates higher temperatures. Viton is not black in color, kind of brownish with these seals. You did not mention the mileage or if the oil pump shaft was worn in the way of groove(s). Find a different vendor. The seal was brownish color. The car has 154k and the oil pump shaft didn't look worn but I didn't measure it either. Can a loose oil filler cap cause aeration of the oil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKghandi Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 what weight oil do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 I believe it was 5-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibreakstuff Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Try 5w40What oil pressures are you seeing on the gauge during cold startup and at full temp idle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Try 5w40 What oil pressures are you seeing on the gauge during cold startup and at full temp idle? I have the idiot light and no pressure gauge. I suppose I should hook up an aftermarket gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKghandi Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I run 10-40- 20-50 depending on season. "5w30 not recomended for sustained high speed driving" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdweninger Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 What has worked for me in the past .... I put about half a quart of ATF in the oil (use the whole quart if you are 1 quart low on oil) ... I run the motor between 1000-2500 rpm for maybe 5-10 minutes... or until the TOD stops. The ATF seems to clean out the oil galleys, I guess. Then of course, drain the oil and replace the filter. I use Delo 15-40 since 1993 and I have only had the TOD once (ATF did the trick). I have never rebuilt the oil pump on this particular EA 82 Soob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I've been using 10w-40 in Ea82s since 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 10-40 is fine for all year almost anywhere in the USA. 10-30 in the winter in northern states. 15-40 or 20-50 in very hot climates like Arizona, NM, Nevada in Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks everybody. On my next oil change I will run a little ATF through the engine, then use a 10w-40 or 15w-40 oil and try that. Or I could just slow down and keep the rpm's below 4k but that is lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thought I would do an update. I changed my oil yesterday and elected to use Valvoline High Mileage Synthetic Blend 10w-40. I drove it to work this morning at about 70mph @4100rpms and no TOD as of yet. Before, that little ea82 would be ticking for sure! Thanks for the advise everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 "70mph @4100rpms" Gotta love that 3 speed auto! :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 For sure! What rpms are you running with the 5 spd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I'll be interested to see if stays quiet, I hope so. I certainly can relate to the TOD. Did you do the re-inforced case o-rings on the cam towers yet? I have had pretty good luck with Marvel Mystery Oil for noisy lifters too. Edited January 5, 2015 by Crazyeights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 With the 3.7 5 speed 65 is 3k. With the 3.9 it was around 2900. My girlfriend's Loyale is an automatic as well, and I've hit 100mph in it. It was turning 5900rpms there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kerandt Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I think that is called a Red-line tune up. Possibly the most underrated cure for TOD? I baby my car. I must say I am impressed. Never drove an ea82 that would top 80 and my gf 3AT will barely go 70. Were you going down hill? Anyways. Drive it like you stole it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) That is awesome haha! Edited January 6, 2015 by loyale1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyale1993 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'll be interested to see if stays quiet, I hope so. I certainly can relate to the TOD. Did you do the re-inforced case o-rings on the cam towers yet? I have had pretty good luck with Marvel Mystery Oil for noisy lifters too. I'm interested in seeing if it stays quiet too. I haven't done anything to the can towers. I will on my next timing belt change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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