falconer315 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I'm looking for some inexpensive ways to make my '05 Baja more off-road capable. It looks pretty well stock underneath the hood. I'd like to get a couple inches of additional ground clearance and some protection for the underbelly. Little to no money can be diverted from household bills for these projects. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 King Springs. But they will cost you money, so you're probably screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconer315 Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Unfortunately ezapar, when it comes to money, I'm always screwed. Comes with the territory of having 3 kids, 2 dogs, a wife, and one income. Can't always get what I want, but always have what I need. Any ideas on things I could get out of the pick-n-pull that would accomplish what I'm looking to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The Baja is basically an Outback. We use the suspension from those to lift regular legacys and imprezas. When it comes to lifting the Outbacks, they tend to use springs to lift them. There are also strut spacers available, but they'll also cost. If you find something at pick and pull that will make it taller, then please share with us. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUBARU-OUTBACK-3-GEN-4CYL-F-R-30mm-RAISED-COIL-KING-SPRINGS-/150743521523?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item23190398f3 http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/susp.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconer315 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Will do, I'll keep my eyes open and let you know if I find anything noteworthy. I'm beginning to kick myself for selling my old SUV. I'm willing to bet I could've found a way to rig up the brand new shocks/struts into the baja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferp420 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Find the picture of the napkin with the 2" lift specs on it it is floating around this site somewhere if it works for the ea81/82s rigs i see no reason it wont work for a baja/ outback but then again i havent tryed it on a outback yet and i dont know if the angles are the same ether it should at least work for the front i see no reason it wont work for the rear some test fitting and trial and error might be in order its just a body lift but its free and you only need a hack saw and a drill to fab the lift any more than 2" and your gona want lots of skill or lots of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 A block from an ea81/82 will be WORLDS apart different. Not compatible at all. The EA81 only has 2 posts at the top of the front struts. The rear on an 2001+ is completely different than even Outbacks before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferp420 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I was talking about the 2" square tube strut top spacers not a premade lift kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconer315 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 ferp, I think I've seen that one on here. I was considering giving it a shot as well, but wanted to get multiple views before attempting anything. Hoping to get opinions from people with more viable knowledge than what I possess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegablade Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 There are a couple different companies who make lift kits for Bajas. So its not impossible but if you don't want to spend any money then I wouldn't suggest lifting it as you would then need to make other adjustments to correct all the suspension geometry that you just changed. Plus the biggest reason for lifting your car is to put bigger tires on it for even more ground clearance. The ground clearance is needed for offroading which will cause you to spend more money fixing stuff that wears out faster or breaks. I would say find a decent skid plate or build one and then find some more aggressive tires. Those two alone will be easy and would be a good start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconer315 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Thank you Vegablade for your input. Any thoughts on building a decent skid? Amusingly enough I've heard that road signs make a pretty good skid plate. Any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegablade Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Road signs would work, but you might have a hard time explaining how you obtained it to any law enforcement. I know a few different companies like Primitive or Rallitek make them as they should be the same as Legacy/Outback ones. As far as home made goes you would just have to find a piece of scrap steel or aluminum and cut or bend it to your needs. Edited March 20, 2015 by Vegablade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferp420 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 My landloard got a half a dosen old street signs from the city workers i used one for a skid plate on my older bumper worked great took everything i through at it you might try asking around the city yard or ask the local road crew maybe they will kick down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconer315 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Thanks. I'll check with a couple of scrappers that come around and see if they've got anything. If that doesn't work, I'll check with the local DPW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherGL10guy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I agree with Vegablade. You could even get a coil insert style deal, not the best setup but great for a couple size bigger tires. an inch or so suspension plus bigger better tires will make a WORLD of difference you would be surprised where those cars will go with good tires. and with the way things are tucked in under the car a skid would make for a fun Baja! Find some used tires, do some trading or whatever u can. good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureSubaru Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) The limiting factor for most light off roading for a subaru is ground clearance. Here are the options I can share that can improve that. 1. Cut 3/8 HDPE spacers for stock suspension. A big 3/8 inch HDPE cutting board from Wal Mart is about $14. Cut it out with a jig saw etc. You don't need to swap bolts on your strut tops if it stays 3/8 or less. 3/8 of an inch of lift for $14. and a little work. 2. Those 1 inch 5x100 wheel spacers on ebay. You can get a full set for $100. and they extend the wheel out allowing you to fit a larger tire without hitting the spring perches. Estimate about a 29-30 inch tire will clear the perch with them. 3. 2 inch strut top lift blocks. I think this should be the same as any 2000-2004 outback or legacy. SJR sells the full set for $300. but if you DIY you'd save most of that cost. Steel isn't that expensive. 4. Bigger tires - USED! I have not bought a new tire in about 10 years and don't plan to for a while. The used market on craigslist and other places will get you some great deals on used (Often barely so) tire sets. Be sure they are matched brand, size and wear so you don't hurt your trans. But shop for tire sets that will give you better ground clearance and a good off roadable tread pattern. I paid $100 a few weeks ago for a set of Goodyear wrangler AT 30 inch tires and a spare. $20. a tire! Edited April 1, 2015 by AdventureSubaru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comatosellama Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The limiting factor for most light off roading for a subaru is ground clearance. Here are the options I can share that can improve that. 1. Cut 3/8 HDPE spacers for stock suspension. A big 3/8 inch HDPE cutting board from Wal Mart is about $14. Cut it out with a jig saw etc. You don't need to swap bolts on your strut tops if it stays 3/8 or less. 3/8 of an inch of lift for $14. and a little work. 2. Those 1 inch 5x100 wheel spacers on ebay. You can get a full set for $100. and they extend the wheel out allowing you to fit a larger tire without hitting the spring perches. Estimate about a 29-30 inch tire will clear the perch with them. 3. 2 inch strut top lift blocks. I think this should be the same as any 2000-2004 outback or legacy. SJR sells the full set for $300. but if you DIY you'd save most of that cost. Steel isn't that expensive. 4. Bigger tires - USED! I have not bought a new tire in about 10 years and don't plan to for a while. The used market on craigslist and other places will get you some great deals on used (Often barely so) tire sets. Be sure they are matched brand, size and wear so you don't hurt your trans. But shop for tire sets that will give you better ground clearance and a good off roadable tread pattern. I paid $100 a few weeks ago for a set of Goodyear wrangler AT 30 inch tires and a spare. $20. a tire! No way that price per tire wasn't a april fools joke... That's a crazy deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Ive gotten tires for free.Remember, *BIG* tires on subarus are the stock tire size on other 4x4s. You can find nice tires that people are giving away after lifting there vehicles or what not. Still, for what its worth,the tires that are going on my 78 brat are gonna be BRAND NEW super swampers...bald or worn out all terrains suck in the mud.The wheelspin to momentum ratio is a bit lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconer315 Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Making me wish I'd just tried to part out my Santa Fe when she kicked the bucket, rather than selling her for 400. At least then I could've kept the tires... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comatosellama Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Ive gotten tires for free.Remember, *BIG* tires on subarus are the stock tire size on other 4x4s. You can find nice tires that people are giving away after lifting there vehicles or what not. Still, for what its worth,the tires that are going on my 78 brat are gonna be BRAND NEW super swampers...bald or worn out all terrains suck in the mud.The wheelspin to momentum ratio is a bit lacking. That I really wanna see pics of. Sounds badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Its a brat shape object in my garage with 7/6" lift and ea81 suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comatosellama Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Its a brat shape object in my garage with 7/6" lift and ea81 suspension. How about pics now? Sounds like my dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 How about pics now? Sounds like my dreams Its a work in progress. here is an older pic but not much has changed other than a few small details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconer315 Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Looks like fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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