ukroy Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Hi.On my 1993 Legacy the compressor has frozen as in seized, could it hopefully be just the clutch or my worst fear?Thanks in advance Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If seized, then it is toast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Whale Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 That exact thing happened to the compressor in my '93 when it had barely attained 100.000 miles. Rebuilt compressors were quite expensive at the time, so I bought a new one from the dealer--better warranty, about the same price--and put it in. Good solution, at the time. Much more recently, I had the compressor in my '95 go bad (extremely noisy bearings), and didn't fancy paying much to fix it. eBay proved to be a good source of used compressors of this era, and for about $50 I had my replacement part in hand. I put it in, charged the system back up, and it's been as good as ever for over a year now. AC work is not to be feared. Removal and replacement is very easy. If your system still contains any significant refrigerant charge, the right way is to have a shop remove it for you before you open the system. After you put everything back together, the official procedure is to pull a vacuum to remove any air and moisture before recharging; however, in my experience these systems are fine if you skip that step (I've done that with a couple of other Subarus after replacing leaking seals, and they've performed well for years thereafter). Do replace the o-ring seals where the pipe unions attach to the compressor; they're the ones that will harden and leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 That exact thing happened to the compressor in my '93 when it had barely attained 100.000 miles. Rebuilt compressors were quite expensive at the time, so I bought a new one from the dealer--better warranty, about the same price--and put it in. Good solution, at the time. Much more recently, I had the compressor in my '95 go bad (extremely noisy bearings), and didn't fancy paying much to fix it. eBay proved to be a good source of used compressors of this era, and for about $50 I had my replacement part in hand. I put it in, charged the system back up, and it's been as good as ever for over a year now. AC work is not to be feared. Removal and replacement is very easy. If your system still contains any significant refrigerant charge, the right way is to have a shop remove it for you before you open the system. After you put everything back together, the official procedure is to pull a vacuum to remove any air and moisture before recharging; however, in my experience these systems are fine if you skip that step (I've done that with a couple of other Subarus after replacing leaking seals, and they've performed well for years thereafter). Do replace the o-ring seals where the pipe unions attach to the compressor; they're the ones that will harden and leak. I had a bad leak of refrigerant, which I traced down to a pin hole leak in the metal tubing. I replaced the metal tubing and O rings on both ends. To recharge, I emptied half a can of 134 in the system, then vented it out, thinking this would pull out some of the atmosphere and moisture. Once completed, I recharged the system with 2 cans of 134, and the A/C has worked perfectly for the last two years. I am not proud of consciously venting 134 out to the atmosphere, but what the heck, if your system springs a leak the same thing is happening. Having a shop pull a vacuum, and recharge is just so expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 buy a used compressor, add refrigerant, and youre done. takes no time at all, cheap, and easy. i've done it gobs of times. no need to buy rebuilt, new or worry about vacuuming the system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Seem to remember, it takes 2 cans of 134a to charge from empty to full. Is this correct?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 buy a used compressor, add refrigerant, and youre done. takes no time at all, cheap, and easy. i've done it gobs of times. no need to buy rebuilt, new or worry about vacuuming the system. buy a used compressor, add refrigerant, and youre done. takes no time at all, cheap, and easy. i've done it gobs of times. no need to buy rebuilt, new or worry about vacuuming the system. Sorry grossgary, I wanted to send you a personal message that I liked your comment, but prolly pushed the wrong button to say that I did not like your comment. Sorry about that. ..................Rooster2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirtokesalot Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) you could build your own refrigerant recovery system/ vacuum machine. Edited May 3, 2015 by sirtokesalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 yes, two cans from empty to full for newer generation Subarus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 yes, two cans from empty to full for newer generation Subarus. Thanks, that was what I remembered, but I am getting old, so my memory plays tricks on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forester2002s Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 How important is it to add a lubricant to the refrigerant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 How important is it to add a lubricant to the refrigerant? If replacing the compressor, then yes, add some PAG. I can't remember how much, maybe 2 ounces, but others will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstevens76 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 You can buy most Freon with oil in it now. I would add dye though. It will be a lot easier to trace down leaks in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subasaurus Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 If replacing the compressor, then yes, add some PAG. I can't remember how much, maybe 2 ounces, but others will know.depends on alot of things, i remember my 1993 impreza took 4ounces but you also gotta see if the compressor also already has some. you don't want to put double of what it needs and yes, time to replace the compressor, mine was seized when i bought it, tried so hard to move it, i got it to spin freely again but when i forced the living hell out of it, i heard a snap inside and when i would tilt it, i could hear a screw or chunk of metal in there rolling around (never took it apart) since i was already in a bad mood because i had to spend a bunch of money for a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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