desertsubaru Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I got the 2.2 in place of the 2.5 in my 2003 forester but it wont start. Timing marks are dead on, its getting spark and has 170 psi in all cylinders but the plugs are soaked with gas. I don't have the exhaust on yet, will that cause it to flood because of no 02 sensor? Also I noticed a few differences in the throttle body. The top pic is the 2.5 throttle body that has what I guess is the map sensor. The bottom pic is the 2.2 which you can see has some differences, No map on top. If you need better pics let me know and I will get them. Can I just swap throttle bodies or do I have to swap the whole intake. What else could cause the flooding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Need to put the whole 2.5 manifold and wiring harness on it. The computer needs the MAP sensor for proper fuel mixture calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 I may have been wrong about the flooding plugs are wet from when I sprayed pb blaster down the holes to loosen the plugs up.. For the heck of it i put some gas down the throttle body and it tries to kick off but then back fires through the intake. How do I check to see if it is getting fuel? Is it possible to have one cam off even though the timing marks are dead on? It turns then it gets to a point that it will almost stop turning like its getting tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 did you swap the cam and crank sprockets? i'm pretty sure that is required, intake manifold as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) did you swap the cam and crank sprockets? i'm pretty sure that is required, intake manifold as well. No didn't swap the cam or crank sprocket. Is that both cam sprockets or just passenger side? I changed the plugs with another set I had and didn't dump any fuel down the intake but the new plugs are soaked again. So time to change intakes. Edited June 11, 2015 by desertsubaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 I see the difference in the crank gear but not the cam gears. on the right with less "teeth" is the one from the 2.5 on the left is the 2.2. Are the crank and cam sensors the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 the cam on the battery side of the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 the cam on the battery side of the engine. Thanks john! So drivers side cam sprocket, crank sprocket and intake. Oh well live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 cam and crank sensors work the same but the do not swap, the brackets are different and do not fit in the other place. the "teeth" on the crank sprockets are obvious, the ''lobes" on the cam sprocket are on the back side . usually if one is wrong then the other is wrong. good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Houston we have ignition! Changed intake Drivers side cam pulley and crank gear. Also had to change knock sensor because the plugs are different. Then she fired right up. :banana: Thanks for all the help John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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