xjeeper Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 How do I set the timing on a 97 2.2l from what I've read it is an interference engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Need more info. Are you replacing the belt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Got a whole timing kit. Belt idlers and tensioner. stuff got spun accidentally while belt was off I don't know how far so I need to know how to set the timing on the car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Follow this http://lovehorsepower.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48:1995-subaru-legacy-outback-timing-belt-and-water-pump-replacement&catid=10:subaru-legacy&Itemid=64 or look on you tube. You may have bent valves though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureSubaru Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Spun with belt off was probably just a slip on one of the cams since they are under pressure. Valves wont bend from that unless someone tried starting the car or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 It was not cranked after the timing was off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) You should be ok then. Reset timing and drive on. To be sure though after you get the belt back on turn the engine by putting a socket on the crank bolt and turn it over a few times. Edited June 22, 2015 by desertsubaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 I set everything like the guide said. Car cranks freely but doesn't start now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Make sure you are using the tick mark in the back of the crank gear and not the arrow on the front. Do you have compression when turning it over by hand? Do you have Spark? Have you tried adding a cap full of gas to the intake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have all tick marks lined up. Is it possible for the cams to be 180 degrees out? I tried just a spritz of starting fluid and it didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureSubaru Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 You can confirm that the timing marks all still line up? If the tensioner is weak it can jump a tooth or two and not start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Tensioner belt and all 3 idlers are new. And yes after cranking all the timing marks still line up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureSubaru Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Ok. And everything was running ok before this work was done? If timing is good, check for spark next. Pull a spark plug, reattach to the plug wire and have someone crank it while you look for spark. 97 impreza would still have a black fusible link under the fuse box. Check that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 If you still have the covers off the TBelt take a picture of the timing marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocei77 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Check that the large hose(@1" dia) from the IACV to air intake is attached. O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 How do I set the timing?? All the guide says is line up the marks.. I did that.. Is it possible for the timing to be 180 degrees out?? I need to get this thing fixed asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 If you set the marks right it cant be 180 out because it don't have a distributor, Timing is set by the crank and cam sensors and controlled by the ECU.. Do the basics, check for spark first and compression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) If you still have the covers off the TBelt take a picture of the timing marks. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/xjlisa/temporary_zpswmz1tuwm.jpg http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/xjlisa/temporary_zpsmxphpewf.jpg http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/xjlisa/temporary_zps7xuqunvm.jpg Edited June 22, 2015 by xjeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 So I was cranking to check for spark and it backfired through the intake and popped apart all the intake tubes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I cant tell by your pics because i cant make out the timing marks. Do you have some white out or paint you can put on the cam marks? Also need pic of crank marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 The guide said the center gear was the crank mark? If not there where is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yes center is crank, two sides are cams. Like I said put some paint on the marks then take pics of all three gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 The white spots on the can sprockets are the timing marks right? I'm guessing the little arrow on the center sprocket is the timing mark? http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/xjlisa/temporary_zpsx1kuixpt.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Crank looks correct. Cant tell on the cams though. Your not talking about the white marks on the cam bolts are you? The cam marks are on the lip of the cam pulley, should be little hash marks on them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjeeper Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yes I thought the white marks by the can bolts were the timing marks.. Do you have a picture of what the marks are supposed to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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