Webster Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I need help. I replaced front driver side axel last night. Test drove after. Worked fine for 50 feet then let go. Makes rumbling sound and wouldn't move. Put in 4wd and drove it back. Not a stripped hub. Axels not turning when stoped. When in nuteral driver side axel shakes and makes rumble sound from stub area. I'm worried the tranny is toast. Any suggestions? It's a 84 gl 4wd 4 speed dual range. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Spline count the same. Snug fit and roll pin in place. Every thing from stub to axel nut is solid. When I look at the stub it looks loose. Whole axel and stub vibrates in nuteral. Rumble sound in all gears including nuteral. Sounds like splines slipping in transmission. Do tranny stubs loosen? I did have to beat on the wheel hub to get the wheel bearings onto the new axel. I had the stub end already attached. Could I have broken something in the stub area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 You're absolutely positive the spline count is the same? I know the ea82 cars are 23 and 25 n/a and turbo cars respectively on the trans side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Yes, but even if the spline count were different the axel would turn the wheel because the roll pin would turn with the stub though may have slop and vibration. I can't get my front wheels to engage. I jacked up the front wheels off the ground and hand turned the passenger wheel to see if driver side would turn and it didn't. I felt some resistance but then felt like teeth slipping over each other. Just puzzled here. Thank you for your input. I've had stripped hubs before, it sounds and feels like that but not that because the axels won't turn on the engines power, just rumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Well it would shear the roll pin, but it sounds like you're confident it's not axle fitment. You'll know if it's a stripped hub if the axle nut is spinning. If the axle nut isn't spinning it's definitely on the stub side. Only thing I could think to try would be to swap axles left and right but it sounds like you def have an internal problem on the trans. Edited November 16, 2015 by l75eya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivantruckman Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 the roll pin is just a retainer , it wont take any torque at all before it shears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Oh. Ok. Well that would make sense and be great if that's the case. I'll take it off to take a close look at it tomorrow. Thank you. I thought it would be a perfect fit.. Special ordered it from Oriellys. I guess I should always double check parts and not always trust things are as they should be. I appreciate your help. Been reading this website for years and always been impressed with the wealth of knowledge and support given. This is my first post. I'll get back to you on the status. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep, wrong spline count. The box and part number said it should've been 23. I took it off and it was 25. Guess that will do it every time. Lessons learned. Thank you for your help and patience. Don't trust Oriellys computer to be correct. So glad it wasn't my tranny. You guys rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yup. It happens. My first clutch job, all by myself, I dropped the trans in a gravel driveway by myself. Had the flywheel machined, put the clutch in, put it all back together, clutch wouldn't disengage. I pulled that @$%& trans THREE times by myself to double, triple, and quadruple check everything, working only on weekends, ALL weekend. After like a month I tapped out and brought it to a shop. Wrong clutch. The part number on the box was right, my order was right, but the incorrect clutch was in the box. We all learn somehow. My lesson sucked rump roast and cost me $300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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