BRATwurst Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 So I recently bought a 1986 BRAT and the man I bought it from said that you could put a 5-speed from a different model in the same generation. I was wondering if that is true and if so I was hoping you guys could help as to which trans it was, and some general buying tips. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Hi This is Jerry, yes you can up grade with the 5 speed dual range trans. i am the guy that makes the kit to do this swap over call me and i will tell you all about it. 509-952-2855 Thanks Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 5 speed and Weber = the two best upgrades you can do. Have both on my brat and love it. Need to 5 speed my wagon someday...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 anything wrong with your four speed ? A fifth gear generally does not make you go any faster at same revs in top gear with these old Subes. I find that 2nd gear of the four speed is so much better for um...racing, snappy driving than 2nd in the 5 speeds. 3rd of the five speed does not have same efect as 2nd in the 4 speed. The 5 speed has superior shifter components over the 4 speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfoyl Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 >A fifth gear generally does not make you go any faster at same revs. Yes it does, 5th is .78 in a 5 speed and .885 in a 4 speed. That's a significant difference at 100km/h, though when you get to a hill you will need to drop down a gear a lot sooner >I find that 2nd gear of the four speed is so much better... You can notice the difference between 1.950 and 1.947 ? I would agree with the 3-4 on the 4 speed. 3rd was a good running around town gear (50-60 km/h), and 4th was 80 km+. With the 5 speed I spend more time sawing between 3rd and 4th around town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subnz Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 . "The 5 speed has superior shifter components over the 4 speed". Totally agree have owned 2 examples each of 4 and 5 speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machthree2 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Lots of work to do the 5 speed. i lifted my Brat and that posed other problems and don't forget about making a custom driveshaft. i'm planning an ej upgrade and possibly a turbo so the 5 speed was designed for about 25 more horses which i will need. Definitely talk to Jerry and don't forget about the driveshaft cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Lots of work to do the 5 speed. i lifted my Brat and that posed other problems and don't forget about making a custom driveshaft. i'm planning an ej upgrade and possibly a turbo so the 5 speed was designed for about 25 more horses which i will need. Definitely talk to Jerry and don't forget about the driveshaft cost. It's not necessary to have a custom driveshaft made. You just use the driveshaft from the 5spd car. You have to install a center bearing mount, but that's not expensive or difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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