calebz Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Time to add my Accell SuperStock coil to the dead list. It decided to crap out on me while about 60-70 miles from home.. Car stalled and would not restart. I got out and looked.. sure enough. oil from the coil had traveled down the coil wire to the cap. The coil wire was twice as big around as the rest of the wires. Thanks to 78TurboBrat for driving out to the middle of nowhere to bring me parts at 11-12 at night may return the coil and try a new one, only this time it will be mounted in a vertical type position, see if that helps any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Maybe an MSD or Mallory coil? Accel has never impressed me personally, but it's just a feeling I have. I think the whole angle thing is BS - the stock ones are fine with horizontal, so unless Accel is skimping on the oil level, I don't see why that would make any difference. Bad design if it overheats at ANY angle I say. But if you have a warrantee..... maybe get a new one, and sell it on ebay. hehe. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaRube Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Maybe an MSD or Mallory coil? Accel has never impressed me personally, but it's just a feeling I have. I think the whole angle thing is BS - the stock ones are fine with horizontal, so unless Accel is skimping on the oil level, I don't see why that would make any difference. Bad design if it overheats at ANY angle I say. But if you have a warrantee..... maybe get a new one, and sell it on ebay. hehe. GD Maybe the OE coil's don't overheat because they don't put out as much power.Wouldn't it get hotter putting out more volts? Anyway, what can you expect from a $30 coil? I carry my original coil with me just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Bad design if it overheats at ANY angle I say.Higher voltage should have been taken into account when designing the product. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill90Loyale Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 From following the USMB, it seems that there are lots of folks running the Accel 8140. Mine is fine - so far. Mounted same as original, no problems. About 10 months old. How old was it when it failed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 myself.. i would be curious enough to cut into a un-warranteed accel coil and try to figure out where it went bad did the primary coil winding short out? did the secondary one short out? did it loose all of the oil in it.. or was there enough to begin with poor insulation on the coil windings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaRube Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Higher voltage should have been taken into account when designing the product. GD Both Accel and MSD recommend vertical installation for this reason. I would assume different climates also produce different results. Once again, what do you expect for a $30 coil? I have never heard anyone complaining about the pricier models, just the cheap canisters. You get what you pay for. I haven't read any posts yet where the coil started leaking when it was mounted upright. Now watch mine fail on the ride home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Mine was great for almost a year and then when i swapped in a new engine and used of all things accel wires it took a big crap on me, i'm running the stock coil again and i think i might upgrade to a better one again, but making sure that its vertical, which i guess is easy insurance if they don't like to be sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 From following the USMB, it seems that there are lots of folks running the Accel 8140. Mine is fine - so far. Mounted same as original, no problems. About 10 months old. How old was it when it failed? About 10 months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 should have paid $50 for the chrome version instead of the $30 yellow coil my brat's had an 8140 in it for a few months now, no problems. my wagon's had one in for the better part of a year but i rarely drive it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 you are getting SCREWD if you pay more that $5 extra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Yeah - this is a good point - they are cheap so you can't expect a really excelent product. I personally run a 20 year old stock coil, so I have no troubles at all. Hehe. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I keep telling you guys, my MSD is on its THIRD car in as many years and still running strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I must concur that I have always been happy with MSD products. And they are that pretty red color.... not much more expensive than the accel.... Gd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marck Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Be good idea to buy the HIGH VIBRATION Coil offered by Accel or MSD. These coils are epoxy filled (instead of oil filled) which makes them tougher and mountable in any position (even upside down). Highly recommended for rally, offroad, and jumping your subaru . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Guess I'll be re-mounting the one in the '84 so it's upright. No want dead coil! Same goes for the one for the '82 when I get to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 i dont even know why im running the damn thing, other than its chrome, and new. everybody just biches about them, but coils go out all the time, thats why they stock them at the parts store. has anybody ever put one on and gone, damn, my car pulls harder? or damn, it straight fixed my high load pinging? didnt think so. maybe the stock one works good, i got a spare under my seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill90Loyale Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Quote: Originally Posted by Bill90Loyale From following the USMB, it seems that there are lots of folks running the Accel 8140. Mine is fine - so far. Mounted same as original, no problems. About 10 months old. How old was it when it failed? "About 10 months old." Caleb- You really know how to set a man's mind at peace. You were supposed to say that you've been running an Accel 8140c in the horizontal for the last 15 years with absolutely no trouble. Now I really wish I'da hung on to the old one, and I'll have to double up on my anti-anxiety meds. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Sorry bud. If it helps any, it might be almost 11 months old.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78TurboBrat Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Been around alot of cars for a long time and that was my first to see a coil do something like that, but then again, i dont have the yellow accel coil, or have a need for it. on the turbo brat i am just running the stock coil off the ea82t car. mounted in a verticle posistion. And Caleb, no problem at all having to save your day. Just remember your running a F.O.R.D. Part. Found On Road Dead. Might want to through that wrench and an extra coil in the back of your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyruss Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16140&highlight=accel+coil+dead yet another one. hmm I feel like a coil fourtune teller:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Still havent secured mine and its a couple years old now. I offroad it all the time and for a while it wasnt even in the bracket; just flopping around the engien bay. I'm with archemitis on this; they just break. I've had 2 OEM ones go out for no visible reason. If they typicaly lasted "20 years" parts stores wouldnt stock them becuase ppl would rarely be buying them. I'll just replace my Accell Super Stock with whatever is cheapest when it breaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Honestly, I have have owned over 60 cars. This is only the second time I have ever had a bad coil. The first one was over 20 years old when it crapped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutt7 Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 I owned my chromy 8140 for 2 weeks now...dead the ig. module was out, too. Perhaps one killed the other. either way, I threw my dying stock coil back in and she fired right up...swapped them one more time in case it was a fluke, it wasnt. I mounted it vertically and even put a peice of rubber mat between the coil and the bracket to dampen vibration. Whats the comparable MSD p/n? or maybe I will play the safe road and go with stock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik R Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 This is not good news...........I installed an 8140 back in Dec. and have it mounted in the stock position. My old coil was not stock, it was a Bosch "blue" coil from a VW............3.4 ohms across the small terminals (I had a low-end miss). The Accell has 1.2 ohms. I doubt it is any better than stock, but I don't have the stock one to compare it to. A good idea was put forth earlier in the thread: If mine dies, I volunteer to "cut it open" and see what the heck is in there,, as well as electrical measurements (I have a Fluke 77BN). Until then, maybe I should go to P-n-P and pick up a spare? :-\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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