ductran Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) My car is 85 Subaru GL uses EA82 engine with non-turbo cylinder heads as pictures... and valve lifters I purchased new lifters from eBay having diameter = 21 mm (it matches in services manual) following... but when repaired engine, I see my valve lifters having diameter = 20 mm so bought lifters not fit with cylinder heads. How do I can replace my valve lifters? Thanks, Edited May 10, 2016 by ductran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Ill point you in a direction. There is a lot on this subject.. Please research. Google is a lot easier to find answers, than using the search here. Google: EA82 HLA. , EA82 lash adjusters, or EA82 Tick of death Let us know what you find. Also, how much did you pay for the Lash Adjusters(lifters)? You most likely over paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 There is only one size EA HLa, they shouldn't be wrong?? Mizpah engineering sells them for a few bucks each, real cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 There is only one size EA HLa, they shouldn't be wrong?? Mizpah engineering sells them for a few bucks each, real cheap. Yep, these people are awesome!! http://mizpahprecision.com/pricing.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 My car is 85 Subaru GL uses EA82 engine with non-turbo cylinder heads as pictures... and valve lifters I purchased new lifters from eBay having diameter = 21 mm (it matches in services manual) following... but when repaired engine, I see my valve lifters having diameter = 20 mm so bought lifters not fit with cylinder heads. How do I can replace my valve lifters? Thanks, Do you still have the original HLA's? If so call Mizpah and send them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ductran Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) Do you still have the original HLA's? If so call Mizpah and send them off. Yes. (If using bought HLA from eBay then I have to replace my cylinder heads ). I want to find new HLA's (the same original HLA's) because I located in Vietnam too far to shipping for rebuild them. But I don't know which type of original HLA's to search it The original HLA's have diameter = 20mm and height = 64mm Anyone please could help me? Edited May 11, 2016 by ductran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 http://mizpahprecision.com/pricing.htm Click the link: Wow! Ok There has to some closer... Russia maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Yes. (If using bought HLA from eBay then I have to replace my cylinder heads ). I want to find new HLA's (the same original HLA's) because I located in Vietnam too far to shipping for rebuild them. But I don't know which type of original HLA's to search it The original HLA's have diameter = 20mm and height = 64mm Anyone please could help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Yes. (If using bought HLA from eBay then I have to replace my cylinder heads ). I want to find new HLA's (the same original HLA's) because I located in Vietnam too far to shipping for rebuild them. But I don't know which type of original HLA's to search it The original HLA's have diameter = 20mm and height = 64mm Anyone please could help me? 64mm is over 2-1/2". Your originals look like this one, for V6 and V8 Dodge/Ford and other makes. Not a EA82 They should be around 2-3/8" in height, and look like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) I just noticed that it looks like the HLA (lifter) sleeves are thicker than what is normally found. You stated the old lifters were 20mm and the new ones are 21mm. I think someone changed the sleeves and put the wrong lifters in. See pictures yours top, with the thick sleeves and mine with correct sleeves. Please someone chime in, and let me if crazy assuming that the factory sleeves and lifters(HLA) were changes at some point. Edit: Ductran's head on left, mine right Edited May 11, 2016 by superpoo93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ductran Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 I just noticed that it looks like the HLA (lifter) sleeves are thicker than what is normally found. You stated the old lifters were 20mm and the new ones are 21mm. I think someone changed the sleeves and put the wrong lifters in. See pictures yours top, with the thick sleeves and mine with correct sleeves. Please someone chime in, and let me if crazy assuming that the factory sleeves and lifters(HLA) were changes at some point. Edit: Ductran's head on left, mine right Yes, I also think like you, but I don't find out the way to solve this problem now. Do you have any ideas? Thank so much, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpoo93 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Do you have a local machine shop that could help you and install the correct sleeves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 mic the sleeves first to verify that is actually the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ductran Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Do you know where sell used cylinder heads in good condition, please show me? My engine using carburetor with intake manifold single port cooling. Edited May 12, 2016 by ductran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maozebong Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) you don't need to measure that lifter to know its not from an ea82. the top sticks out way farther and the sleeve in the head is visibly thicker than anything subaru uses. id be willing to bet its a common press fit bushing, or possibly a journal bearing, milled to fit the lifter of choice. its common in old school 2nd/3rd world machine shops to use commonly available parts over the correct parts. i personally think you should disassemble them and clean them if you don't have the resources for another set of heads. the common problem is that an internal check valve gets stuck open, as its a dead end for the oil feed. edit: if its currently 20mm and your new lifters are 21mm, get a brake cylinder hone an widen them out until your new lifters have a tight fit, a .25mm clearance. Edited May 12, 2016 by maozebong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 might also pay to measure the depth of the recess in case they have been made deeper to take the 20mm HVLA's. Just measured mine to the high side of the brass? bushing insert ~30mm some clever machinist made do with what was available and must have machined up something to be able to use smaller diameter HVLA as said before , ductran, can you post a pic of your old next to the new 21mm ones? Yes, surely a machine shop can increase the ID of your bushings in the heads to suit the factory HVLAs you have now - see if you can find the specs in the manual. A machinist probably knows the needed clearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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