Dealer price 2006 outback with 14000 miles?

[CNY_Dave]

Dealer price 2006 outback with 14000 miles?

Dealer near me has a 2006 outback wagon (I'm assuming 2.5 with 4spd auto right now) with 14000 miles.

It might look great underneath or like crap, haven't seen it yet, I know it could go either way.

But, how on earth to get a realistic idea of what this thing is worth, assuming it's in good shape?

KBB etc says $9,500-$10,000 price at a dealer, dealer is talking like $13,000 and I think they are smoking crack, even for the northeast.
But, so few miles, hard to tell.

Could end up being a leaker, I know, dry seals and such.

Thoughts?
 

[idosubaru]

that's high, but most dealers are and ultra-low mileage cars can command a premium and you can't go find another one to comparison shop.  dealers know this, you either want a 14,000 mile car or you don't care. 

 

2006 listed at a dealer here for $11k with 70,000 miles - so another $2k premium for 14,000 miles sounds about right. 

 

until you know engine/trim the price point could be up in the air?

 

why is it low, from sitting for 5 years or just light use?

 

autotrader, KBB, craigslists (dealers post a lot on there in most areas) give general trends in pricing. 

that's high, but most dealers are and they generally know that ultra-low mileage cars can command a premium

[montana tom]

Go check it out... could be a diamond.  On your test drive run it up hard ,work it ,who cares if the salesman is sitting there. Then pop the hood and look on top and underneath to see if anything shows . If its nice and your serious, make the dealer write it up that any leaking that starts in a reasonable period will be repaired by them no charge. Try offering cash (if you can afford it) money talks.  13,000 is very high but 14,000 documented miles is low. Try to find out why its got low miles , could be a little old lady from Albany going to church on sunday. Or could have sat in a climate controlled garage... just as easy it could have been exposed to the weather. Worth a look.

[CNY_Dave]

It is reputed to have been owned by a 95 year old man.

 

It is running rough, they are going to fix it and I'll get eyes-on and -under then.

My wife said it was 'loud' also, but not necc like an exhaust leak.

 

If it is a diamond, we'll get it, if we can find financing for a decade-old car. Our credit union won't go less than like 9.5% on a car that old.

I'm not sure I want to take it if we can't get GAP insurance either- the insurance company will say the car is worth $6k probably no matter condition/miles, and we'd be stuck with 5-7k in loan if the car gets totaled.

[idosubaru]

wow, "let's list this low mileage outlier that will garner attention, for a premium price while it's running like !$&)$!"   

[CNY_Dave]

*They* know they need to fix it *we* know they need to fix it, *they* don't know *I* know to be suspicious of the weird problems really low mile old cars can have.

 

So we'll see, both how it drives and what they say was wrong.

 

I give 50/50 odds it's a mess of rust underneath, all the wiring is mouse-gnawed, and the airbox was fulla acorns.

[CNY_Dave]

So it was bought at that dealership, the guy is like 95 and left today with his new subaru.

It's a base level 2006 outback, meaning a premium, 2.5, not a VDC etc.

Wife said it was loud and felt like it was going to stall, they said it drove fine and check engine light went off after changing the air filter.
They said it had no nuts etc in the airbox.
I am test driving it tomorrow, I requested it be sat-overnight-cold when I test it tomorrow at about 8:30 am.
1st thing I will do is pop hood and feel radiator and do a visual. I will also ask what codes it stored.

[CNY_Dave]

Cars in really good shape. Only rust is mild stuff on rear sway and some stuff like that back there.
Had been ziebarted back in the day.

Exhaust front donut is crushed by time, the exhaust flanges at the mufflers are a little sketchy. I think it made some noise on my wife's drive.
There is a rust bubble on the trans pan, and some oily dirt on the trans pan.

Very minimal critter evidence on top of the engine.

Car had a "P0851" (neutral switch input circuit low) stored, they said they had just adjusted the shifter cable- there's a TSB on that. Monitors were set, so they hadn't cleared codes.

Anyone know if a P0851 can cause limp mode? That would explain a lot of what my wife saw driving it. I can't quite tell from teh internets if it can.

They will change the coolant, I'll change the rest, I got them to essentially come down another 500 (they'll do the timing belt, it has a time inyterval as well as miles).

[CNY_Dave]

We are going to buy it.

Side note, turns out the poor driving experience my wife had was because she accidentally put it in 'sport' mode and drive around in 1 or 2.

[idosubaru]

nice hit. 

 

replacing tensioners and pulleys to or just the belt?  i'd do it all while they're in there. 

 

do you still want my VTD bits!??  lol

[Subaru_dude]

I wanna see pics of this car! Sounds like you're happy, congrats!

[CNY_Dave]

Just google a pic of a brand new dark blue outback!

 

I haggled them down an extra $500 last week, then when we decided to buy it told him to apply it to new T belt and tensioner.

 

I wonder how my 'new' car, our 2.5x 2005 forester, would do with non-VDC VTD?

 

I need to do a trans drain-and-fill and the diffs before next weekend when we take our first trip in it, they did the oil and coolant as part of the purchase.