crazyhorse001 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Bearing in mind I'm staying on road, talk to me about my options for getting off the 13" rims. I have all the stuff to go either way, 5lug, or redrill for a smaller 4lug pattern (prob 4x114.3) My XT is fwd, and i have a fwd XT6 for parts to 5lug. I also have a set of fwd rear disks. I know labor wise, redrilling is easier. I also know that for future performance upgrades the 5lug gives more options. Help me make up my mind so i can settle on a course of action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEECHBM69 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Redrill your hubs, then sell the 5 lug stuff to pay for your rims and tires. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Keep it 5 lug. Options for brake and suspension upgrades and wheels are readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Redrill to a different 4-lug pattern? That's not exactly simple, as you have to drill all 4 holes without any reference. Drilling to 6-lug is easy as 2 of the lugs already line up. Also, the center bore will have to be machined off. If you have the 5-lug parts, I see no reason not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Redrill to a different 4-lug pattern? That's not exactly simple, as you have to drill all 4 holes without any reference. Drilling to 6-lug is easy as 2 of the lugs already line up. Also, the center bore will have to be machined off. If you have the 5-lug parts, I see no reason not to. I redrill them 4 bolt pattern http://www.sjrlift.com/index.php/catalog/misc/hub-4-x-4-5-in-114-3mm-detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyhorse001 Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 I have access to a full tool and die shop at work, so the machine work isnt a huge issue. I can toss a free lunch at our machinist to get everything kopasetic. Keep the advice coming its really appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snofool Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 If you're on the road go with the 5 lug. The only drawback is getting your e brake back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyhorse001 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 I have xt6 front knuckles, 2 pair actually. E-brake is a non issue Honestly I'm more concerned about the amount of labor and downtime. i can have the hubs redrilled, and swapped out in a weekend. But then i hafta buy wheels...kinda have my eye on a set anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonist Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you've got all the parts, doing a 5 lug swap in a few hours shouldn't be a problem. Barring nothing breaking/sticking in your car rusting climate Each front corner is: 3 bolts at top of strut, 1 bolt for lower control arm (join to crossmember), 1 nut for radius rod, 1 nut for steering tie rod end, 1 bolt for anti-roll bar, 1 pin for driveshaft, then brake line & e brake rear end is simpler: axle nut, brake line, 3 bolts for backing plate bleed the brake fluid & you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantum Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Hub redrilling is not ideal in my book, so I'd go with the 5 stud conversion ... Cheers, Bantum ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyhorse001 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 If you've got all the parts, doing a 5 lug swap in a few hours shouldn't be a problem. Barring nothing breaking/sticking in your car rusting climate Each front corner is: 3 bolts at top of strut, 1 bolt for lower control arm (join to crossmember), 1 nut for radius rod, 1 nut for steering tie rod end, 1 bolt for anti-roll bar, 1 pin for driveshaft, then brake line & e brake rear end is simpler: axle nut, brake line, 3 bolts for backing plate bleed the brake fluid & you're done. Not included in this: swapping inner cv's, or trans to the fwd turbo trans i have. I'd either have to do this or source some early fwd impreza axles to have the proper spline counts on both ends. I really have done my homework on both possibilities. This is my daily driver, and honestly will probably never be upgraded for high horsepower. The 4 wheel disks should be more than enough upgrade to handle my needs. (Its currently disk/drum) It has a rear sway bar, bigger than the one on the turbo. Thanks for the input, I think for my needs the redrill (by competent machinists) is the best soution for a stock(ish) ea82 fwd car. Being >100hp I think it'll be just fine Anyone wanna buy some fwd 5lug parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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