Bushwick Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I know this engine/year ej22 is considered a direct-swap for newer body styles. Was wondering up to what year Legacy it remains fairly straight-forward? There are some fairly clean Legacy models locally,with the dead/dying ej25 for really good prices, and considering my engine is seemingly good and I've logged roughly 20k miles with it, thinking it might be worth the effort to transplant, as I like having a Legacy, especially in the winter (other car is RWD BMW, so...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp213 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Phase 1 ej22 (1990-1998) (1990-1996 non interference and 1990-1995 non interference dual port) will work in 1998 and earlier legacy, 1999 and earlier outback, and 1998 only forester. Anything later than those years is phase 2 and it won't work. (Unless you have a phase 2 2.2. Then the list is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp213 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 I forgot impreza. 99 became phase 2. 95-98 with automatic tranny usually had phase 1 2.2. 5 speed impreza usually had the 1.8. Mot sure when they cometely did away with the 1.8. I have only had a couple imprezas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwick Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 So only up to 98' Legacy and 99' Outback is basically drop-in? Saw an 01' Legacy and almost got it, glad I asked first. 99' Outback has the updated rear crossmember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtdash Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) So only up to 98' Legacy and 99' Outback is basically drop-in? YES 99' Outback has the updated rear crossmember? Not sure What you're referring to here? All '99 models have the newer style bellhousing w/the 8 bolts. But the earlier 4 -bolt engines still attach....just use the matching trans-side mounts. Edited May 30, 2017 by wtdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 My 95' has the steel crossmember holding the rear pumpkin. I thought they switched to a large aluminum crossmember and changed the rear Independent suspension at some point around 99-01'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtdash Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 '96-'99 OB 'should' all be the same Struts @ all 4. '00 had struts front; multi-link rear. Cars101.com should have the info, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 All 1996-1998 EJ25 vehicles. 1999 Outbacks and Legacys with 2.5 only. If it's not on that list it won't work....not easily anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1999 ej25D Forester. They exist but rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtdash Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 1999 ej25D Forester. They exist but rare. I'm NOT trying to pick a fight (I'd lose), but in the last 10 years of reading about and working on Subies I've never seen one.....although these rumors persist? So, I'll believe it when I see it. :-) Edited May 31, 2017 by wtdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1999 ej25D Forester. They exist but rare. They DO NOT EXIST. If such a thing existed then it's some kind of DMV mistake, etc. I have worked on thousands of Subarus and no such animal was ever manufactured. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I've seen one, in a junkyard. With an earlier 1998 build date, but sticker said 1999 and it was for sure an ej25d in it. Could have been a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Someone may have swapped the hood. This is not unusual if they needed a hood and found the correct color off a 99. If it had a 25D it was a 98. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Working in and out of a dealership at the time, EJ25D in a 99 Forester did NOT exist. Check the VIN. the 99 introduced the PHASE2 block which was an SOHC on the 99 Forester. And an even bigger oddity the 99 Outback Phase 2, 2.2L which was a 1 year engine. Granted could be swapped with others. That said, the 98 Forester was a SLUG selling when it was introduced. There were LOTS of leftovers sold in the 99 year. FHI expected their sales to be much higher than they were. More RARE was a 98 BASE WHITE ONLY Forester..... 5 speed with NO FOG LIGHTS and I can't remember what else was missing at the time, This was not even called an L, but a base model. They were very limited. I only saw 1 then entire time I was at that dealership. Edited May 31, 2017 by ferret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 99 Forester EJ25Ds don't exist. 99 outbacks with 2.2s arent oddities, Impreza Outbacks are everywhere. 2.2 Legacy Outbacks don't exist ....or if they do some quantitative info pointing to that would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtdash Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edited May 31, 2017 by wtdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtdash Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) ^ Mr. G. The '96 OB had the 2.2 w/the 5speed; 2.5 w/the 4EAT. '95 had a Legacy OB, but was an "L" model w/different colors. No 2.5, no raised roof or suspension, etc. - per Cars101.com. Edited May 31, 2017 by wtdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 My 95' has the steel crossmember holding the rear pumpkin. I thought they switched to a large aluminum crossmember and changed the rear Independent suspension at some point around 99-01'? 2000 went to a multilink rear end but it's still all steel. No aluminum crossmember ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) ^ Mr. G. The '96 OB. i was referring to 99s and precious comments in this thread to help the OP. a full history didn't seem necessary for the OP but you are correct, out of context my comment doesnt stand alone and could be confusing. Edited June 3, 2017 by grossgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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