outbackinswv Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Is there an igniter for the coil packs on a H6 3.0 engine, if so where is it or does some one have a pic of it ??? Picked up a 01 LL Bean from a lady that said it just died while driving last Oct. Engine cranks like crazy but will not start. I shot some starter fluid in throttle body but still just cranks. Searched the internet for how to test for spark on these hard to get any thing in there coil packs and found no answers. Was thinking about disconnecting one of the coil packs and put an old plug in and have some one crank it over and see if spark is there. Would I have to worry about shorting any thing out ? If I can be sure there is spark my next step will be the fuel pump. Any ideas will be very helpful . thanks Also showing no codes and engine has 216106 miles on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 it isn't too difficult to inspect the fuel pump, just be careful with the plastic bits on top. see; http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/110-gen-2-2000-2004/41182-symptoms-fuel-pump-o-ring-problem.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Each coil pack has it's own ignitor inside. If it didn't kick over on starter fluid then chances are it's not your fuel pump. But doesn't hurt to check pressure. Hook up a scanner and check for RPM signal while cranking, MAF grams per second, etc. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 are plugs wet? maybe flooded - but that seems unlikely to have caused the original stall-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outbackinswv Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 Getting spark, not a strong dark blue spark but there is spark. Pulled a plug and it did not look bad but was soaked with gas. You could shake the plug away from you and see the gas drip. Plugs are Bosh R6W double platinum. So I take it the pump is working and there is spark. So now what ??? What is the gap for these plugs on the 01 3.0 engine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outbackinswv Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 Not a newbe here. Have been on this site for years. Could not get in site with my old name (wrongturninwv) and could not contact an admin. So had to come in as a newbe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 OK, put everything back together, make sure the battery has a strong charge, and crank using the 'clear flood' procedure. HOLDING (not pumping, not halfway, not lifting your foot during cranking....) the gas pedal flat to the floor while cranking signals the ECU to cut fuel. The car may need several revolutions to get the fuel out of the cylinders and re-wet the rings with oil - so, expect a loooong crank followed by some sputtering and then, hopefully, it will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Compression test to make sure you didn't lose time. I know they are a chain engine but if previous owner didn't change oil often they can fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outbackinswv Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 Will do. Need to re charge battery. No room to do a compression test. If you have a pic of the tester I can get in there please post a pic. thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Will do. Need to re charge battery. No room to do a compression test. If you have a pic of the tester I can get in there please post a pic. thanks guys If you can pull the plugs, you can do a compression test. Just need a tester with a long flexible tube that can thread into the spark plug hole. The ones that you hold against teh hole are worthless anyhow. Get a proper tester and then yes you can comp test it. This is a basic one. Longer hose would be better, but this should work. https://www.amazon.com/INNOVA-3612-Compression-Tester-Piece/dp/B000EVU89I/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1498501232&sr=1-4&keywords=compression+tester Edited June 26, 2017 by Gloyale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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