MWLoyale Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Tell me what you guys think. I'm thinking bad gas because it's been sitting for over a year. Am I being too optimistic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee2 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I don't know about "optimistic" but since you haven't provided any information, I doubt folks will be able to help. Did you remember to put a battery back into the car / hook it up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john in KY Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Timing belt screw up/distributer not correctly timed/coil bracket not grounded/engine harness not completely plugged in/do you have spark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MWLoyale Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 It took a little bit for the video to upload sorry, yes to spark. The timing marks on the cam gears line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWLoyale Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 It runs sometimes when you hold the pedal to the floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch de la Brat Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Can of seafoam and fresh gas in the tank. It'll clear any varnish/gunk from the fuel delivery system. I didn't get to view the YouTube video yet, is it carbureted or fuel injected? Twitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Spray carb cleaner down the throat for 1 to 2 seconds. Then try cranking. If it fires momentarily, it's bad fuel / no fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee2 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Sounds like a no fuel problem. Bad fuel would start but run lousy. Check your fuel pump. Make sure you have the fuel lines hooked up correctly and tight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I ran a bunch of old fuel for a while a number of years ago. The main problem was if it had water in it. I made a setup to remove the water. I was amazed at how stale of old gas I could run without trouble. The worst stuff I had, I had to mix 50/50 with new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Fuel cut module kicking in until you're cranking/engine is running. Short the fuel pump to make it run to ensure it's primed the fuel system good and proper. CheersBennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWLoyale Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 I rechecked the timing and sure enough the distributor was 180 degrees off, but now that I put it at TDC and have the distributor facing the 1 spark plug it just backfires and I cant even get it to run with the pedal on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I rechecked the timing and sure enough the distributor was 180 degrees off, but now that I put it at TDC and have the distributor facing the 1 spark plug it just backfires and I cant even get it to run with the pedal on the floor. You sure about being 180 out? Engine would not run if the timing was 180 out. Sounds more like an OVER fueling problem-carb flooding -bad injector or MAF etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWLoyale Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 You sure about being 180 out? Engine would not run if the timing was 180 out. Sounds more like an OVER fueling problem-carb flooding -bad injector or MAF etc. I turned the crankshaft until the 0 mark and when I removed the dist cap, the rotor was pointing at the number 2 spark plug. So I reset it to the 1 spark plug, this is correct? and if the maf is bad or injector, how available are those parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cortado Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 To me, it sounds like a flooding problem that I had a few months ago. The injector was stuck in on position, so I had to run to the junkyard to get a new (used) one. Is there any gas smell? Reminds me of a few tedious days of posting on this forum. If no gas smell, then it might be a no fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWLoyale Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 There is a gas smell and there aren't any junkyards that have a loyale near me. Anyone know where I could get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 pull plugs to see if they are getting wet from fueling but not firing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWLoyale Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 pulled the plugs and smelled gas and the plug was wet. Sparks are happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee2 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) If you're getting fuel to the plugs and spark then you have a timing problem. Double check plug wires to correct plugs, distributor, cam orientation. Edited March 30, 2018 by Dee2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch de la Brat Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Remember, 1-3-2-4, counter clockwise. Doesn't matter which contact is cyl 1 as long as you follow that order. Twitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I turned the crankshaft until the 0 mark and when I removed the dist cap, the rotor was pointing at the number 2 spark plug. So I reset it to the 1 spark plug, this is correct? and if the maf is bad or injector, how available are those parts? Crank rotates twice for every once the cams do. So there is a #TDC for compression and exhaust strokes. Well, you may have just needed to rotate another full crank turn and then it would have been correct. Sounds like you swapped it TO 180 out. You can check wether you're on compression stroke by pulling the outer timing belt covers. Line up the crank to 0 tdc, then look at the cam dots. Are they diagonal outward? or in towards engine? If there IN, then rotate one full crank rotation. Now the dots should be "out" diagonally. This is the #1 compression stroke. NOW check the disty rotor and set it accordingly to point at #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWLoyale Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Thank you gloyale and everyone else, I got it running by resetting the belt, thinking I was one tooth off. I remembered reading somewhere about the cam dots facing out and I set them to that position. Put the rotor at 1 and it started right up! Now a problem I've been having ever since I got the car that still happens is smoking out of the catalytic converter. What would cause this? A bad cat or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdweninger Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 cat is probably partially blocked. Some guys clean em out with a wire. Or, there is liquid fuel in the cat from no-start condition. All my 80's Soobs are cat-deleted. Take car on highway, run at 4k rpm until fixed. Make sure oil and coolant is filled correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Oil or some form of grease etc on the cat that's burning off. Check your cv boot above the cat to ensure there's not a little pin hole in it - although this should be obvious as you'll have cv grease splatter in every direction in line with the hole. Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWLoyale Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 I'm currently trying to gut my cat by sticking a screwdriver through the o2 sensor hole and hammering away. I don't have access to a welder, is there any easier way to gut it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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