steve56 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Airbag light doesn't turn turn off after startup. How do I diagnose and repair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I had an issue with my airbag light on 05 OB. Been a while so I cant recall if it was on dash or overhead console by map lights. It may have been intermittent?? If you have the same config, apparently there was a bad solder joint in the overhead console. I discovered this bit of information after buying a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 You need a new map light assembly or you need to open it up and resolder the surface mount circuit board components. GD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If you are handy with a soldering iron: Or if you want someone else to do the repair: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Subaru-Legacy-Outback-map-light-overhead-console-REPAIR-for-air-bag-code-26-/142319374843 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 10:26 AM, GeneralDisorder said: You need a new map light assembly or you need to open it up and resolder the surface mount circuit board components. GD I opened up the map light assembly and re soldered the far right diode. Still have the airbag light on dash. Do I need to re solder all the components on the board. Do I need to erase the airbag code like erasing an O2 sensor ... code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 You should resolder all the connections on every component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 20 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said: You should resolder all the connections on every component. Is there a inexpensive code reader I can buy to verify what srs code my 07 Legacy has. So far not having any luck soldering the map light assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I'm not sure on that one. I use a pretty expensive Snap-On scanner so I'm not sure what offerings are out there that can do this on the cheap. It's getting more common - you can check the manufacturers web site.... or just drop by an independent shop with a pro level scan tool and ask them to scan it for you. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Here is what I use. Autel AL619 Autolink Engine,ABS,SRS Auto OBD2 Scanner Car Code Reader Automotive Diagnostic Tool https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091DJWV0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IhuKBbF47QDM7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 3 hours ago, msmithmmx said: Here is what I use. Autel AL619 Autolink Engine,ABS,SRS Auto OBD2 Scanner Car Code Reader Automotive Diagnostic Tool https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091DJWV0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IhuKBbF47QDM7 I don't think that can pull srs codes on a 2007 Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Map light. Google it - the options are sparse, unknown, it extant at all. I haven’t had the need to check thoroughly but I haven’t seen a cheap way to read 05+ SRS codes. Need the shop level toys like GD has at the moment. I wonder if the laptop OBD2 cables, or more importantly the supporting software, have come far enough yet on these new systems to read SRS codes? Edited September 7, 2018 by idosubaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 9 hours ago, idosubaru said: Map light. Google it - the options are sparse, unknown, it extant at all. I haven’t had the need to check thoroughly but I haven’t seen a cheap way to read 05+ SRS codes. Need the shop level toys like GD has at the moment. I wonder if the laptop OBD2 cables, or more importantly the supporting software, have come far enough yet on these new systems to read SRS codes? Yes. No luck on srs code reader for 07 Legacy. I've been checking Windows and Android based software for laptop, haven't found anything there either. Have RomRader but no srs reader there. There's got to be something out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 you would think someone has figured it out. the system went to CANBUS around 2005-2007 and is dramatically different and harder to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, steve56 said: Yes. No luck on srs code reader for 07 Legacy. I've been checking Windows and Android based software for laptop, haven't found anything there either. Have RomRader but no srs reader there. There's got to be something out there. Yes - Snap-On has support for it in their scan tools. But I think it's starting in the $2500 level tool. What you are paying for here really is the software that it comes with. No one else supports the range of makes, models, and systems that they support. As you are seeing. My local dealer uses the top-of-the-line Snap-On scan tool offering (which starts at about $15,000 and goes up depending on number of hand-helds, etc) in preference to the latest Select Monitor. Only using the Select Monitor when they have to for reflashing and the like. They also use Snap-On software in the parts department instead of what Subaru offers. Rom-Raider has no support, nor does any other software (ECUFlash, EVOScan, etc) that uses the Tactrix cable. Not that it couldn't physically do it, but no one has programmed that ability. I'm quite sure the Tactrix hardware would be capable of the communications protocols, but no one is really interested in talking to the SRS computer so it is sure to never be supported. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana tom Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Check out this scanner. Might just be what we needed for subi's , at a price a small timer can afford. https://www.icarsoft.com/Product/s-343-iCarsoft_HNM_II.html EDIT) I'll have one next week , Ill give it a spin and then give it a review. Edited September 8, 2018 by montana tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Check out the crp123. Looks like that may be a winner https://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/66-problems-maintenance/128018-autel-al619-subaru-compatability.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 16 hours ago, montana tom said: Check out this scanner. Might just be what we needed for subi's , at a price a small timer can afford. https://www.icarsoft.com/Product/s-343-iCarsoft_HNM_II.html EDIT) I'll have one next week , Ill give it a spin and then give it a review. Hi Tom. Communicated thru email with icarsoft. They said there product works on Subaru srs, but couldn't confirm what years they work on. That's great that your getting one and are going to review it. Then we will know for sure if its a good buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 9/6/2018 at 8:06 AM, msmithmmx said: Here is what I use. Autel AL619 Autolink Engine,ABS,SRS Auto OBD2 Scanner Car Code Reader Automotive Diagnostic Tool https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091DJWV0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IhuKBbF47QDM7 Thanks for the info on the Autel 619. When I talked to Autel phone support, they suggested the 619. However like the icarsoft tech support, Autel couldn't confirm what years it would work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 20 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said: Yes - Snap-On has support for it in their scan tools. But I think it's starting in the $2500 level tool. What you are paying for here really is the software that it comes with. No one else supports the range of makes, models, and systems that they support. As you are seeing. My local dealer uses the top-of-the-line Snap-On scan tool offering (which starts at about $15,000 and goes up depending on number of hand-helds, etc) in preference to the latest Select Monitor. Only using the Select Monitor when they have to for reflashing and the like. They also use Snap-On software in the parts department instead of what Subaru offers. Rom-Raider has no support, nor does any other software (ECUFlash, EVOScan, etc) that uses the Tactrix cable. Not that it couldn't physically do it, but no one has programmed that ability. I'm quite sure the Tactrix hardware would be capable of the communications protocols, but no one is really interested in talking to the SRS computer so it is sure to never be supported. GD Thanks for your advise Gd. Yes I can see srs on a 2007 Legacy is to obscure for anybody except the big players like Snap On to have on their scanners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just got the MaxiLink Ml629 from Amazon. Yes it does read the srs codes from 2007 Legacy. I got the 26 code number. I have re soldered map light assembly twice. Not quite sure why code 26 is still happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 do you need to clear srs codes once repair is made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 As I said - map light. I’d replace it. The proper protocol if you dont like guessing or believe anyone telling you to replace it, which is healthy skepticism, trace the appropriate wires and verify the ohms or continuity of each. If those all check out you then know it’s the light assembly then you could test the light assembly circuitry and board itself for basic continuity to try and narrow down the exact failure point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve56 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, idosubaru said: As I said - map light. I’d replace it. The proper protocol if you dont like guessing or believe anyone telling you to replace it, which is healthy skepticism, trace the appropriate wires and verify the ohms or continuity of each. If those all check out you then know it’s the light assembly then you could test the light assembly circuitry and board itself for basic continuity to try and narrow down the exact failure point Yes. Just ordered the new map light assembly from Subaru. Just wanted to verify the error code first. My local dealer wanted $140 just to run the codes. Now that I know its error code 26, it seems like a safe bet to buy a new map light assembly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brus brother Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 you only tried twice... the guy on this video was successful on the third try! my dad used to say "it's already broken, how much more can you break it"? Give the soldering one more shot before you pick up the new one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Thanks for the followup. Glad to hear the diy $120 scanners are on par with pro equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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