alexbuoy Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Got this car for free it's extremely rusty, but I think it'll be a great trail rig. I'm already a couple months into the build and it should be ready for the trails real soon. My first subaru was a 1991 Loyale 5 Speed 4x4 I picked up for $675. The two following years it received a 2" lift, 29 inch tires, a 5 speed dualrange swap, a welded rear diff and an EJ22 swap. The entire driveline was donated to the brat. I'm hoping to get the loyale running again with the stock EA82 and 5 speed pushbutton 4WD. I also had a red Loyale for about a year. What's been done to the BRAT 4/3 inch homebrew lift EA82 Front End Front to back tube chassis Ej22 Swap 5 Speed Dualrange Welded Rear Diff Rock Sliders Rear shock hoops Fuel Cell EA81/EA82 hybrid rear axles to name a few... This is it's current condition. Updated as of October 26 2018 This whole build was done with just an angle grinder, bandsaw, and a welder in the garage. My Loyale Pictures from the previous owner. Originally a New Mexico car. Rusted to spoob and the pictures don't do justice. I had to drive 2 hours to San Diego to pick it up and used 2 triple A tows to get it home. At least it had a clean title. Engine ran, but only on 3 cylinders. No power. I think that engine was toast. Mileage was unknown. Finally got it home, at least he left the cyclops light grille and a fairly complete interior. Exterior wise everything was missing Flat towed it to the DMV to register it. Over the next few months I started to collect all the missing exterior parts. Here is what it looked like after I got all the parts. MINT jump seats and headrests!!! Stole the EJ22/Harness, 5 Speed dualrange, driveshaft, and welded rear diff courtesy of the Loyale But before I could put any of those parts in, I wanted to change over to EA82 front suspension as it is superior, wider track, and has power steering. The EA82 front crossmember was wider, so I had to offset the holes on the lift blocks. Then the blocks got linked together with DOM tubing. Finally the EA82 front suspension was on minus the front lift blocks. The whole front suspension was scavenged from an 85 GL. All the EA81 front suspension was ripped out. I was doing a 4/3 Inch lift and the subframe for the front was dropped 4 inches. You can see here how the subframe block holes are offset. I think around an inch each hole was offset Here are my designs for the EA81 to EA82 subframe blocks. On the subframe blocks on the engine crossmember closest to the cab, the holes were offset about 1.25 inches. On the subframe blocks on the engine xmember closest to the front clip, the holes were offset 1 inch. See the pictures to get what i'm saying. Blocks on the crossmember and blocks on the radius rod/transmission mount. Then linked all the blocks. Front xmember, trans xmember. Some sick notching. Done by hand I also decided it would be best to extend the radius rods. I extended them 1.5" to help clear my 29's. Note : you need to notch the holes in the control arms. 1.5" imo was a little to much. Now onto making the front strut lift blocks.cut at 6 degrees had an assload of camber... Finished product. Blocks tacked together Now onto the rear end. Very simple I used 4 pieces of 3x2x2" square tubing to lift the rear torsion bars. I also dropped the rear Diff the same amount which required 4 blocks of the same 3x2x2" tubing. Rear lift blocks in. And I know this thing is rusty. Rear lift blocks got linked as well. Threw in the Ej22 along with the 5 speed transmission, rear diff and driveshaft. To make the 5 Speed dualrange fit, I used the 4 speed mounting brackets which were modified. The holes in the bracket were elongated. Than the 4 speed transmission bracket and mounts were able to be used, to bolt to the 4 speed trans crossmember. The trans crossmember holes had to be notched. Wiring I went with a different approach than in the loyale. Everything power related was hooked to a switch panel like the on, start, fuel pump, and acc. I believe I only spliced the harness to two wires, the tachometer and the VSS. Well it finally ran and drove! I also made a quick front bumper for it. First time out of the garage. Drove ok but had no rear shocks, and the steering was sloppy. The steering I had in was a manual EA82 rack, and I had like 3 u-joints which made for ultra sloppy steering. Drove it 10 minutes to Agoura Hills. Had some extreme issues with it dying when coming to a stop. I still haven't fixed it but I do believe its because of my broken Speedo cable tripping up my VSS. Driving it with no shocks was sketch. Back end was wayyy to soft and hopped all over the place driving down the road. Had to hit a trail on the way home. No rear axles. I started working on welding in shock hoops for the rear. Used 3/16 plate to weld to the frame rails along the pinch welds, and generic shock hoops bought offline. Eventually this will also be linked to the tube chassis. Here is the drivers side welded in Both hoops welded in. Yes the passenger side hoop had to be angled. Linked the two hoops together for uber strength. I'd like to see how this holds up as the frame rails are super thin. And this is my fuel cell I mentioned. It's plastic. The whole front end was finished being tubed, so it got hit with a coat of paint. Got around to swapping in a blown power steering rack from my loyale. I had to extend my current (90-94 legacy) steering knuckle a couple inches to make it work. The new steering joint and blown power steering rack cured the sloppy steering. Eventually I'll have power steering in it. I have a whole new power steering rack and tie rods in the garage but I need to find lines to make it work with the EJ. The tube chassis was nearing completion, so I took it 45 minutes away to a trail in Malibu. Despite it being FWD I was able to make it up most obstacles. My friend in his first gen 4runner was spinning tires (open/open diffs). I struggled but bumping it I made it up more obstacles than I expected. Stay tuned. In my next post the rock sliders will be fished and i'll show some pictures of the tube chassis. Edited July 8, 2019 by alexbuoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) About a week ago I picked up some mint seats to replace my worn, torn seats. I was able to score 2 rear axles, 2 seats, headlight bezels from a 1980 hatch, and an antenna for $110 from the Junkyard. That antenna was hard to find, I think only 3 years were made with it being on the drivers side. And I was finally able to wrap up my ditch lights. Made with 1/8 steel, no drilling or modifications required. I'm planning to take a trip to Gorman this Friday and go to Subiefest on the 21st. After my test on Tuesday i'll be trying to wrap up my tube chassis, sliders, and make some more hybrid rear axles. The tube chassis is almost complete, I just need to fully finish welding a couple spots. The passenger side sliders are completely welded on and they look bad @ss. The drivers side still needs tubing to be notched and welded on. Edited May 2, 2019 by alexbuoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Epic build! Do you have a tube bender for the sliders and tube chassis? Fromthe rust in those pics I can see why you need a tube chassis! I’m looking forward to the next instalment Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 1:36 AM, el_freddo said: Epic build! Do you have a tube bender for the sliders and tube chassis? Fromthe rust in those pics I can see why you need a tube chassis! I’m looking forward to the next instalment Cheers Bennie Thanks! Unfortunately I do not have a tube bender. The tube chassis was done with some pretty unconventional angles but should work. The sliders were for a toyota but were cut down to make it work. The pictures don’t do it justice how rusty it is. I’m still driving with half my floor pans missing haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Fred Flintstone style!! So the end game will be sheet metal replacement once the strength is in the tube chassis? Makes for a wicked looking Brat! Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 10:38 PM, el_freddo said: Fred Flintstone style!! So the end game will be sheet metal replacement once the strength is in the tube chassis? Makes for a wicked looking Brat! Cheers Bennie Hopefully I will have floorpans that are solid and not have any gaping holes in it. I've got almost an entire rust free floorpan that I need to weld in, I just need to find the time. People always get tripped up when they see the floorpan behind the seats are just a gaping hole. But the mounts for the drivers seat I welded in reinforcements... so I got that going for the car haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 The tube chassis is about 90% done now. I'd like to eventually link the front/rear bumpers and the shock hoops to it. And I finally welded in my drivers side rock sliders. It's kind of crooked and annoying, but oh well, can't do anything about it now. The passenger side turned out amazing though. And here is a crappy picture of my tube chassis. I'll need to get a better picture eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) This was the first weekend I was really able to hit some dirt in the Brat. I finally got the power steering in too . The PS took a dump driving home but I haven't been able to diagnose it. Drove 1.5 hours to Gorman, CA to test it out. Something is clunking in my front end extremely bad now, but I was going pretty hard hitting big dips and bouncing the rev limiter. Here is my favorite shot from the trip Me with my friend Jason and his 1982 Brat. Of course there had to be carnage. My temperature gauge broke on the way. And worse my rear stub axle shaft sheared in half. Took me like 30 minutes to put a rear axle in and 5 minutes later snapped the stub axle shaft. The day after Gorman I went to Subiefest out in Arcadia, California. Shame I don't take photos, I always forget. Thank you to Pedro for this shot of me rolling in Very weak selection of old school subarus out there. I think in total there were 4 Brats, 1 Loyale, 1 GL, and 1 XT6. That was the first time i've seen an xt6 and that thing was cool. Should've taken a picture of it. 83 Subaru GL, 300k+ miles AND it drove from Reno, Nevada down to Los Angeles. That is far as f!! 91? Loyale. No lift, 27's. Possibly one of my favorite cars there Love that fitment Edited October 27, 2018 by alexbuoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Really haven't done much to the brat recently nor do I really drive it anymore. About a month ago I had two coolant hoses fail. Replaced a majority of the coolant hoses so it should be good to go. Still need to burp the coolant system. Need to fix my heat controls asap as it's getting cold here in southern california lol. Edited May 12, 2019 by alexbuoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Got the loyale out of the garage finally. Under it's own power too. I'm out of school and work for the rest of the year so hopefully I can pay more attention to my subarus. I want to get the Brat reliably running and trail worthy soon. I also will have 4WD for the brat again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Past couple weeks i’ve just been preparing the car for King if the Hammers. Got almost everything I wanted done. Didn’t get around to a skidplate but I guess just pick good lines. Replaced my master cylinder, tucked my wiring, got a pitch bar mount made, made a poly diff bushing and trans bushings and replaced just about every hose on the engine/car. Should be pretty reliable now. And also i’m working on another front lift. 4.5 inches and i’m going to try a straight cut. Should fix my insane negative camber and rake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Also picked up a bunch of stuff and a Datsun 720 transfer case from board member czny. I’m excited to see where this goes but it won’t be until the summer till I start planning the divorced tcase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czny Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 alexbuoy, You mentioned you wanted to mount your Toyota 31 inch tires on your Brat while I was there Saturday. You may want to rethink going that tall a tire because you've already snapped one rear axle stub with smaller tires. Larger the tire the higher the reverse torque has to be overcome when you land after getting airborne. Of course if you air down to 10-15 psi it could help alot. Just a suggestion. czny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 hours ago, czny said: Larger the tire the higher the reverse torque has to be overcome when you land after getting airborne. Of course if you air down to 10-15 psi it could help alot. Here’s a suggestion... don’t get airborne!! There’s no traction when airborne and to me (maybe a few others too), traction is what off-roading is all about! Cheers Bennie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/4/2019 at 1:28 PM, czny said: alexbuoy, You mentioned you wanted to mount your Toyota 31 inch tires on your Brat while I was there Saturday. You may want to rethink going that tall a tire because you've already snapped one rear axle stub with smaller tires. Larger the tire the higher the reverse torque has to be overcome when you land after getting airborne. Of course if you air down to 10-15 psi it could help alot. Just a suggestion. czny Finally had a chance to take it out and do some wheeling. You're right, with the 31's I would break a lot more axles and stubs, and probably make the car slow as piss. Love the setup I have right now, probably going to keep it for a while. I'm thinking about getting another brat, and swapping everything from my red brat into the new one. Then throw a transfer case and some solid axles under mine. Won't be anytime soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 2:58 AM, el_freddo said: Here’s a suggestion... don’t get airborne!! There’s no traction when airborne and to me (maybe a few others too), traction is what off-roading is all about! Cheers Bennie But it's fun to get airborne . Although getting airborne too much may have broken my frame on the last trip haha. Haven't had the chance to take it on any technical trails yet, would love to see how it does with the new poormans "front lsd". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkyboy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Wow man, your work is beyond excellent. I am truly impressed with the brat. I need to come to that big West coast Subaru show. I will bring my 85 xt turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 9:31 AM, sparkyboy said: Wow man, your work is beyond excellent. I am truly impressed with the brat. I need to come to that big West coast Subaru show. I will bring my 85 xt turbo. Thanks man! I want to go to the WCSS show one year too, but it's about a 17 hour drive from me. I was planning on road tripping the brat up this year but I may have school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 Brat hasn't changed much. Did the rear bearings not too long ago. I think about every bushing/bearing/moving part has been replaced on the car by now. Also got a datsun 720 transfer case from a board member but I don't think i'll be going that direction. I enjoy driving fast and a huge lifted subaru isn't really my thing. I like how i'm still able to take corners fast and have a low center of gravity. I was planning on getting a toyota pickup soon, but I think it's time to get serious about the brat and start dumping money into it. Here are my plans for now: Gut frame rails weld it solid with square tubing. Plate the unibody For the rear: King 2.0 or Fox 2.0 coilover shocks for the rear Hydraulic bump stops For the front: Fit EJ knuckles. I heard this can be done with reaming out the control arm ball joint holes. Hot bit coilovers My main goal for the brat is to be able to jump it and go through whoops comfortably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 11:44 AM, alexbuoy said: My main goal for the brat is to be able to jump it and go through whoops comfortably. You should do a google image search for “Settlement Creek Racing” Scroll down to see the pic: https://allevents.in/griffith/subaru-brumby-race-car-on-show/169638510505561 In action: Epic build! Cheers Bennie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 1:14 AM, el_freddo said: You should do a google image search for “Settlement Creek Racing” Scroll down to see the pic: https://allevents.in/griffith/subaru-brumby-race-car-on-show/169638510505561 In action: Epic build! Cheers Bennie Yea that has been my dream car since day one! I wonder what front suspension he's running, looks to be a beefed up control arm and maybe a double A-arm setup, I'll have to dig more into that build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallyru Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 It’s still macpherson strut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 So a couple months ago before King of the Hammers I remade my front strut lift blocks to try and correct camber. I cut it at 0 degrees and dam it looked really good at first but once it settled I still have a little negative camber. It's also a 4.5 inch front and 2 inch rear and it still has rake. Right after we finished welding it : Also had a blast at King of the Hammers back in February. 6 hours round trip to Johnson Valley no issues at all. Really need to address my heater it sucked driving around in 30 degree weather with no heat I was in limp mode the whole time the motor wouldn't rev past 4500. Probably the VSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) A couple weeks ago I went to some local trails and the brat really impressed me. In 3WD with one rear axle missing I was able to out wheel my buddy's first gen 4runner. He was open/open on 31's and i'm not gonna lie he couldn't do half the stuff I could do. Could be because of the driver though haha. Overlooking the pacific ocean After the recent fires and tons of rain we got random ponds popped up Edited May 2, 2019 by alexbuoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbuoy Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Hopefully this summer I can find the time to start working on the brat. It really needs to be torn down and lots of stuff replaced. Trans leaks an insane amount of fluids it smokes so much every time I drive it. The rear diff leaks too. I also bashed the oil pan pretty hard near the drain plug and now it's starting to leak a little. The rust needs to be addressed asap and the tube chassis isn't fully welded. I may be getting a used tube bender and plasma cutter soon. Almost have all the tools to be able to build this thing semi legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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