whynot Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I did the head gaskets, and that seems to be good, I put the water pump back on with a new gasket. IT leaks at the bottom bolt, on the side near the crank. I have replaced the gasket 2X, and finally used silicone. Still leaking. Any ideas? I cleaned the surface with 320 grit and everything was clean I have not stripped any bolts out, but am afraid i will if I go any tighter. This is a 1999 2.5. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 You sure it's not leaking from the weep hole? The bolt torque is only 7 ft/lbs. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) it is wet at the block to the pump and i do not see it running from anywhere else. I do not have the timing cover on, or the fans or belts.. The pump was new in April. Where would it show up if it were the weep hole? Are you thinking I should just change the pump? could the gasket at the side be interfering? I removed part of it, not sure what it does, maybe dust? Edited November 29, 2018 by whynot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 It would drain directly beneath the weep hole - which is at the bottom of the pump on back side toward the engine. Do you have pictures of the mating surfaces? Is there pitting or warpage? What brand is the pump? GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana tom Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Are you using a paper gasket or a metal one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 I could not see any issues with the mating surface, I do not have pictures, but can get some when it comes apart again. The leak is dripping from the behind the bolt, "c" in the torque sequence. The first gasket that failed was a paper one from the parts store, this one is the metal one from Subaru. The WP came in a gates kit. It has been on the engine before with no issue, using the gasket that came with it. Also I let the car sit for about 1 hr, and no leak, not until it warms just a little and gets a little pressure on it. Could I have cracked something that looks ok cold? and almost without saying the more pressure the faster the leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Sounds like check the weep hole to me. I just replaced a bad gates pump that had 35k on it. Their kits are GARBAGE. I've seen their tensioners fail, their water pumps fail, and their belts break before the change interval. Multiple times. I used to use their kits about 4+ years ago. I've had to warranty a few cars because of them. Do not use. GD Edited November 29, 2018 by GeneralDisorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 WOW, I thought gates was a quality company. That is what we used on everything 20 years ago. how times change. Guess I should get a new pump and try again, after I get it all cleaned up. I will start on this on Monday and get some pictures. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 We use Aisin, or sometimes NPW. Both are quality Japanese. The Gates pumps are no-name Chinese. GD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 Thanks so much once again. I saw the location of the weep hole after I got it off again. Replaced the pump, and it looks like it sealed with no issues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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