divinicus Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 47 minutes ago, FerGloyale said: Yes. The "close" wire, Green/white, should go to the normally closed, or 87a terminal. Green wire should get power from 87 terminal when relay is activated by dash switch. Yes, that's exactly how it's wired now but the door opens and stays open, light works fine and I hear the relay engaging. Do you want me to switch the wires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerGloyale Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 sure you've got an 87a relay and not Double pole 87 ? How is the lamp powered? Does it go one and off with the switch? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, FerGloyale said: sure you've got an 87a relay and not Double pole 87 ? How is the lamp powered? Does it go one and off with the switch? Single Pole DT, here is their description on Amazon. Yes switch cuts light on and off, when I introduce 12v+ to the green terminal on the motor it cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, divinicus said: Single Pole DT, here is their description on Amazon. Yes switch cuts light on and off, when I introduce 12v+ to the green terminal on the motor it cycles. Description 12 AWG Wiring Harness for the main contact - pin 30, pin 87, pin 87a 40A/30A high switching capability 12AWG Pin 87a Yellow 12AWG Pin 87 Blue 12AWG Pin 30 Red 16AWG Pin 85 Black 16AWG Pin 86 White Specifications: Coil Voltage: 12V DC Coil Current: 160 mA Switching Voltage: 14V DC Max Contact Current Rating: - NO 40A 14V DC - NC 30A 14V DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerGloyale Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, divinicus said: Single Pole DT, here is their description on Amazon. Yes switch cuts light on and off, when I introduce 12v+ to the green terminal on the motor it cycles. Does the motor run continuos? or just to open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 I think I'm making a lot of progress, I found a broken green power wire in the old main shroud and soldered in a new one to the motor. Now, here is sequence: 1. Turn on switch. 2. Light comes on and door closes. 3. Turn off switch, light goes off and door opens. So all I need to do is get the door to be in closed position when power is off, and then open when power goes on. Thanks a LOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerGloyale Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, divinicus said: I think I'm making a lot of progress, I found a broken green power wire in the old main shroud and soldered in a new one to the motor. Now, here is sequence: 1. Turn on switch. 2. Light comes on and door closes. 3. Turn off switch, light goes off and door opens. So all I need to do is get the door to be in closed position when power is off, and then open when power goes on. Thanks a LOT! Swap the green and Green/white wires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, FerGloyale said: Swap the green and Green/white wires You're a genius! Works perfectly better than new! I'll post pics soon, enjoy your weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerGloyale Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Awesome! love seeing the working 3rd eye lamps working. Glad I saved those crude drawings from so long ago or I'd have forgotten it all by now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, FerGloyale said: Awesome! love seeing the working 3rd eye lamps working. Glad I saved those crude drawings from so long ago or I'd have forgotten it all by now. LOL I think I loaned you a stock Cyclops relay to make the diagrams from. Good Job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 One more thing, does anyone have the two plastic screw holders as seen in this photo of another cyclops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impostor Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 2 hours ago, FerGloyale said: Awesome! love seeing the working 3rd eye lamps working. Glad I saved those crude drawings from so long ago or I'd have forgotten it all by now. I'm pretty sure I used your drawings when I wired mine on my 85 brat a couple years ago. Crude, but functional. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerGloyale Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 2 hours ago, divinicus said: One more thing, does anyone have the two plastic screw holders as seen in this photo of another cyclops? i think that type of clip is still available new. Maybe from an aftermarket body clip supplier, but I think there is something close enough to work out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czny Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 10 hours ago, FerGloyale said: i think that type of clip is still available new. Maybe from an aftermarket body clip supplier, but I think there is something close enough to work out there. sales@clipsandfasteners.com 714-666-2959 3158 E. La Palma Ave Anaheim, CA 92806 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerGloyale Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 hours ago, czny said: sales@clipsandfasteners.com 714-666-2959 3158 E. La Palma Ave Anaheim, CA 92806 man you are a wealth of knowledge. nice work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 6:39 PM, FerGloyale said: Awesome! love seeing the working 3rd eye lamps working. Glad I saved those crude drawings from so long ago or I'd have forgotten it all by now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but the cyclops grille that was in transit here by USPS may have gotten lost! Do you have a spare original grille? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Good news! Cyclops grille arrived, but apparently they only made it for two-headlight DL model. It needs to be trimmed on the sides to fit my GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 hours ago, divinicus said: Good news! Cyclops grille arrived, but apparently they only made it for two-headlight DL model. It needs to be trimmed on the sides to fit my GL. Hi everyone! Here's another solution I thought of, so I don't need to cut this beautiful, original cyclops grille. I can change out the four headlight GL setup I have and go to two lights, so the grille will fit! Just need to locate the two headlights and their bezels to fit `83 Brat. Let me know if you have these parts for sale, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerGloyale Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I think you've got a cyclops grill from a later single rectangle fixture headlight setup. Narrow and more "square" outer corner lights and no big chrome bezel around the H. lamps. If you look, it's not the same as the one in the pics of the 2 rectangle setup. That setup has curved edges to fit the big chrome bezel. There is a version for the 2 round lamps that has an even bigger curve and is wider still. I've got a cyclops grill and bezel set here that may be the right one for ya...I'll look. Or you could modify the existing grill on yer 83. Probably look better than cutting the outer ends off the one you bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, FerGloyale said: I think you've got a cyclops grill from a later single rectangle fixture headlight setup. Narrow and more "square" outer corner lights and no big chrome bezel around the H. lamps. If you look, it's not the same as the one in the pics of the 2 rectangle setup. That setup has curved edges to fit the big chrome bezel. There is a version for the 2 round lamps that has an even bigger curve and is wider still. I've got a cyclops grill and bezel set here that may be the right one for ya...I'll look. Or you could modify the existing grill on yer 83. Probably look better than cutting the outer ends off the one you bought. I'm with you, I think it's one thing to cut a hole for the cyclops light assy in my existing grille and another to cut the ends off this beautiful original grille. The cyclops light I have CAME with this grille and they match perfectly. That's why I like the idea of going to the two headlight setup, which is stock anyway and all cyclops cars, Brats and wagons, came this way believe. I would be happy beyond words if you can help now that I'm about 85% there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 4:17 PM, FerGloyale said: I think you've got a cyclops grill from a later single rectangle fixture headlight setup. Narrow and more "square" outer corner lights and no big chrome bezel around the H. lamps. If you look, it's not the same as the one in the pics of the 2 rectangle setup. That setup has curved edges to fit the big chrome bezel. There is a version for the 2 round lamps that has an even bigger curve and is wider still. I've got a cyclops grill and bezel set here that may be the right one for ya...I'll look. Or you could modify the existing grill on yer 83. Probably look better than cutting the outer ends off the one you bought. I can afford to put $400 into a suitable cyclops grille, light bezels and the lights including wiring. But the whole setup needs to be ready to bolt on. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just be aware that you *might* need to also replace/modify the front panel that the headlights mount to. Modifying the original grille with the quad lights would be way easier. Someone will know more about this mod... Cheers Benie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Trim the quad-lamp grill. The honeycomb grills are almost a perfect fit once trimmed, since they have a shape similar to the lamp door already in their design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, carfreak85 said: Trim the quad-lamp grill. The honeycomb grills are almost a perfect fit once trimmed, since they have a shape similar to the lamp door already in their design. I can do that but my cyclops lamp door has horizontal slats like the original non-honeycomb grill. I'm going to hold out a while longer on the hopes someone can come up with those single hls with the appropriate shape to match my cyclops grille. It's too cool to give up on it after all this work, lol. But thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinicus Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 I wanted to thank everyone hwo helped me with this project. It was good advice to modify the original grille for the cyclops light! See attached photo, all work done with Dremel plastic grinding wheel and then painted with matte black lacquer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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