subieroo Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 G'day, I have a 1994 Impreza wagon, base model I think (AUDM 1.8L ”sportswagon"), it has 6" speakers in the front as you would expect, but I'm at a loss to how the rears are fitted. The grilles are up on the strut towers, come off easy enough and there's the wiring for the rears and a cavity that would obviously fit a 6ish inch speaker but no mounting hardware. There are two bolt studs toward the back of the car and one toward the front lower in amongst that rubber insulation that don't match up with any speaker config I know of, looks like they mount a fascia plate of some kind. See attached pictures. Google proved useless even when searching for the original Legacy wagon rear setup that I've been told is the same. What do I have to do/find/make to get speakers in these things?? Cheers, Ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 there is supposed to be a bracket that the speaker mounts in, if I am not mistaken.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieroo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, heartless said: there is supposed to be a bracket that the speaker mounts in, if I am not mistaken.. How would I go about obtaining or making this bracket? What donor vehicles to look for or what to ask the dealer? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 C'mon Padawan - buy a speaker and make a bracket out of some sheet goods. Even plastic.... whatever. Get a sawzall and get on with it. We really need to hold your hand for this? GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieroo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said: C'mon Padawan - buy a speaker and make a bracket out of some sheet goods. Even plastic.... whatever. Get a sawzall and get on with it. We really need to hold your hand for this? GD If there's an OEM bracket that accousticly seals the strut tower up perfectly and I can get it from the wreckers for $10 then I'm going to pick that option. My current work schedule is too busy to casually fab up some brackets or I would have just done that like I did for my L wagon. I'd just like to look at options before I do the obvious and make my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, subieroo said: If there's an OEM bracket that accousticly seals the strut tower up perfectly and I can get it from the wreckers for $10 then I'm going to pick that option. My current work schedule is too busy to casually fab up some brackets or I would have just done that like I did for my L wagon. I'd just like to look at options before I do the obvious and make my own. no, the OEM bracket does not acoustically seal the speaker in the strut tower.. it simply holds it in place. this ain't your high end home stereo system here. Edited September 10, 2019 by heartless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 "Acoustic seal" on a 94 Impreza?!? Hahahahahahaha. Surely - you jest. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieroo Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said: "Acoustic seal" on a 94 Impreza?!? Hahahahahahaha. Surely - you jest. GD Geez I just want something less likely to vibrate and annoy the crap out of me, no need to be an rump roast about it. Get off your high horse GD. I don't see how you're being helpful at all Edited September 10, 2019 by subieroo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, subieroo said: Geez I just want something less likely to vibrate and annoy the crap out of me, no need to be an rump roast about it. Get off your high horse GD. I don't see how you're being helpful at all LOL, being as you are new here, you have no idea how funny this is to those of us who have been here a long time.. trust me, He was being gentle... in all seriousness tho.. the stock bracket is just a stamped metal piece that bridges the tower and holds the speaker.. there is no such thing as acoustically sealing a speaker in a Subaru. In fact, I don't know of any vehicle - unless it is a really high end luxury boat (Bentley? Rolls Royce?) - that does such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 hours ago, subieroo said: Geez I just want something less likely to vibrate and annoy the crap out of me, no need to be an rump roast about it. Get off your high horse GD. I don't see how you're being helpful at all High horse? The speakers in my 1986 Trans Am are original. They are (I think) blown. They vibrate like crazy with too much bass. I am not familiar with this "high horse" you speak of. My daily horse is factory ride height. And yeah. I'm frequently an a$$. Just please remember - there are NO stupid questions. ONLY stupid people. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Wow. I'm glad the speakers in our Legacy wagons are mounted in all four doors. Try a junk yard, you might get lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieroo Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 9:30 AM, heartless said: LOL, being as you are new here, you have no idea how funny this is to those of us who have been here a long time.. trust me, He was being gentle... in all seriousness tho.. the stock bracket is just a stamped metal piece that bridges the tower and holds the speaker.. there is no such thing as acoustically sealing a speaker in a Subaru. In fact, I don't know of any vehicle - unless it is a really high end luxury boat (Bentley? Rolls Royce?) - that does such a thing. Yeah maybe I used the wrong term. I'm not looking for high end stuff, I just wondered if the OEM bracket was moulded to fit the shape of the strut tower enough to create some sort of sealed space for reduced vibration... The doors are already set up that way. The seal around the window glass and the plastic wrap are enough to stop distortion, meanwhile the strut tower contains large ventilated areas. I've made enough speaker enclosures to know at least the basic requirements for what's "acceptable" and what sounds like tinny, shaking garbage. I'll probably end up making my own bracket and surrounding it with foam or something. On 9/11/2019 at 11:16 AM, GeneralDisorder said: High horse? The speakers in my 1986 Trans Am are original. They are (I think) blown. They vibrate like crazy with too much bass. I am not familiar with this "high horse" you speak of. My daily horse is factory ride height. And yeah. I'm frequently an a$$. Just please remember - there are NO stupid questions. ONLY stupid people. GD If you enjoy blown out disgusting stock speakers, good for you. Literally any solution is better than stock if you have any respect for your eardrums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I too have built quite a few large speaker enclosures (18" woofers, horn and cone mids and tweeters) years ago. That speaker area is not very large so foam is a good idea. You do not want to seal it because then it would require a tuning port to match the volume of the enclosure to the resonant frequency of the speaker. First, I would either put a 1/4 inch of foam under the rubber lining, or glue it to the metal underneath it so it doesn't vibrate against the metal. Then, I would glue a layer of foam on the bottom and sides of that rubber lining. Too bad those studs aren't longer, you could make your bracket out of wood. If you use sheet metal bend the edges up to make it more rigid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 do keep in mind that under that rubber liner is the access for the rear strut mounts.. you do not want to make it difficult to get in there in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieroo Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 1:50 AM, Rampage said: I too have built quite a few large speaker enclosures (18" woofers, horn and cone mids and tweeters) years ago. That speaker area is not very large so foam is a good idea. You do not want to seal it because then it would require a tuning port to match the volume of the enclosure to the resonant frequency of the speaker. First, I would either put a 1/4 inch of foam under the rubber lining, or glue it to the metal underneath it so it doesn't vibrate against the metal. Then, I would glue a layer of foam on the bottom and sides of that rubber lining. Too bad those studs aren't longer, you could make your bracket out of wood. If you use sheet metal bend the edges up to make it more rigid. Good ideas, I'll be using them when I do the install for sure. Bracket will probably have to be sheet metal. On 9/13/2019 at 8:41 AM, heartless said: do keep in mind that under that rubber liner is the access for the rear strut mounts.. you do not want to make it difficult to get in there in the future. Absolutely.. struts are first on the suspension Todo list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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