poorboy87 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Here is the story... I have a 99 impreza outback with the ej22. I bought it with a bad engine. It had been overheated to the point of not having any compression. Recenty I purchased a 99 legacy L sedan for the engine that also had the ej22. I drove the legacy home. I pulled the engine to transplant in the impreza. After having the engines side by side I realized that everything above the engine block is different than the impreza. Then i swapped the original impreza intake to the donor block. After installing the engine I still don't have a running car. It cranks but doesn't start. I currently have spark. It seems as if though I have good fuel pressure. I checked the timing belt and were all good there. I have a positive 12 v to the injectors but no pulse to the injectors. I've un plugged and plugged back in every connector on the engine. I say with confidence that everything is plugged in and routed right. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 compare the backs of the cam timing pulleys.. there may possibly be a difference. there are raised hashes that signal the timing to the ECU. if the ECU is looking for one thing, but the incorrect pulley is providing something else, it wont fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocei77 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Make sure the crank gears are the same and that crank and cam sensors are plugged in O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy87 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Cam and crank sprockets are identical. The cam and crank sensors are plugged in. The sensors are identical to the sensors on the engine I removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocei77 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Make sure your harness connector is fully engaged. Here is link to fsm. Look at engine electrical. http://jdmfsm.info/Auto/Japan/Subaru/ Also starting at page 171 of the DTC section is troubleshooting for the injectors O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 hours ago, poorboy87 said: Cam and crank sprockets are identical. The cam and crank sensors are plugged in. The sensors are identical to the sensors on the engine I removed. Are you sure? Did you physically check the back of the cam wheel and compare the tabs to ensure they’re the same? The crank pulley can be done by eye without removing the cam belt or pulley. It’s got to be something simple that’s being overlooked like the cam wheel. Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Quote Could put a little gas into the intake and see if it starts and runs a bit. Like others have said Pulleys need to be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy87 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 I will double check the cam and crank pulley tonight. However The ones that are on there are for that block. To me it would only make sense that the timing of the crank and cams would need to match the block in order to run. If there were a difference between the pulleys wouldn't that mean the internals were different as well? That being said I have spark but no fuel injector pulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) nope, they need to match the ECU expectations, not the block. if the pulleys on the original block have a different pattern, then you need to swap them onto the new block Edited December 3, 2019 by heartless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy87 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Ok I checked and I am wrong. I pulled the drivers side cam cover and I can see at least three hashes on the cam sprocket when my original only has two. So here in the next couple of days I will be swapping them out for the original pulleys to the car. Thanks for all of the support. Sorry for my ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 we are not talking about the markings on the front of the cam pulley.. you need to look at the BACK of the cam pulley - there are raised marks that the cam sensor reads to determine when to fire the injectors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 A fellow in Nashville, TN had the same problem. I was going there for work. I took a SET Crank and Cam pulleys that he needed. Swapped them both over. Set the timing and had it going in under an hour. Fixed the valve cover gasket as well. The shop had pinched it and cut it. Leaked like crazy. Always happy to help a Subaru Owner out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 When you remove the cam pully clean the tip of the sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 @poorboy87 it’s not ignorance, it’s learning I only know of the cam and crank changes because it effected a mate of mine that basically did the same thing you’re doing... Cheers Bennie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Double post Edited December 4, 2019 by el_freddo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy87 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Changed out the cam and crank pulleys. Cleaned the the cam sensor. Now its up and running. Thanks again for all of your support. Just currious if if any one can tell me why the legacy cam pulley has seven hashes on the back when my impreza only has two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Awesome! I’m surprised you didn’t notice the difference in the cam sprockets - an easily noticeable difference without removing the timing kit. As of why one has seven and the other only two, it’s related to the changes in the crank pulley tab count and how the ECU references both of these for ignition and injector pulse timings. Cheers Bennie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Also, another reason the ECU is different between the two '99 vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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