ThosL Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I have a 2002 Forester, also a hitch from Uhaul from 1997 Outack. Is this going to be compatible? I tried to do an online search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, ThosL said: I have a 2002 Forester, also a hitch from Uhaul from 1997 Outack. Is this going to be compatible? I tried to do an online search. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Thanks, then no reason to save the one from the Outback. Are these hard to install without power tools? How about a minimal type hitch, class one or bumper hitch as I don't expect to do heavy towing? Edited September 28, 2021 by ThosL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Never used a U-Haul hitch, but I've done lots of Curt and Hidden Hitch on late 90s-early 00s Legacy Wagons, Outbacks, and Foresters and never needed power tools for any part of it. The only tricky bit is fishing the bolt into the frame with the fish-tape-wire-thingy (that's a technical term). I've gotten all my hitches from the boneyard and then gotten the thingies from local hitch shops for nothing. Edited September 28, 2021 by jonathan909 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 How about a minimal type hitch, class one or bumper hitch as I don't expect to do heavy towing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 These aftermarkets are about as light as they get - I don't do any heavy towing either - sailboats that are usually no more than 500 lb. total weight. No such thing as a bumper hitch here - there's simply no load bearing structure in there to attach to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 I went to Uhaul and they confirmed the old 97 Outback tow hitch was not compatible; #12270 for 97 and 36311 for the 02 Forester. So junkyards would be a good supply option for a tow hitch? I do not relish the idea of squirreling under the car and getting everything squared away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) As @idosubaru indicated, the Legacy/OBW hitch and Forester hitch are completely different - different frames. I've had excellent luck at the self-serve yards here, and (surprisingly) the big bolts used to attach the hitches have never been frozen/seized/rusted in place (though we don't have salt air...). Always been able to pull them with nothing more than a 1/2" ratchet/breaker bar and flat wrenches, and they set me back about $30. The only annoying part of the job is getting the charcoal box out of the way. Edited September 29, 2021 by jonathan909 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 I stopped at a CT junkyard today, LaJoies in New Milford as I was going up RT 7, they had a unit @$75 they said was compatible, looked underneath the car, and said the holes would have to be drilled. Is there any cheap or easier solution to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) What, holes drilled in the frame? If we're talking about one of the aftermarket hitches I mentioned (Curt, Hidden Hitch) or similar, nonsense. The necessary holes are already there; they have plastic plugs in them that just have to be popped out and the attachment bolts fished in. [edit] Oh - and make sure you get all the hardware, including the bolts that have to be fished back out of the frame. Getting them is a little fiddly, but not hard. Edited September 30, 2021 by jonathan909 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 Ok, so if the hardware is not included I assume that could add on a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 One can always improvise, but I made a point of mentioning it because the hardware is a bit specific. IIrc, they use big carriage bolts so they'll seat into the slots in the frame from the inside, then you spin the nut on from below. So the square/locking portion of the carriage bolt head has to be the right size. Also, there are little clamping plates that are used to bolt up to the tiedown loops on the frame. I'm assuming from the price (3x what my local self-serve yard charges, as the $30 I quoted is canuck bucks) and your question that you're dealing with a full-service yard, otherwise you could just be sure to get the hardware yourself. If that's the case, they're charging a very hefty premium to yank four bolts, so tell them you're expecting to get ALL the hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Ok, they said it was in a box, I will call them. Basically a new unit, looked to be quality. I did not see the bolts with the unit. Edited September 30, 2021 by ThosL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Ah - a new one from a junkyard - weird. Do you know exactly which one it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 Thanks, I got a call back from a junk yard connected to another location where they have the new hitch without the carriage bolts, and they said they had one in their Norwalk location and for me to come check it out. What are these really worth used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 From a SELF-SERVE yard in your neighborhood, $33. https://www.picknpull.com/part-pricing/165?navitem=t&searchcriteria=t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 If they pull it I'm probably still looking at $75, which may be the way to go in this case. Ffld County CT. Cost of doing business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Of course - if there's no self-serve yard around, they're entitled to make a buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 The tow bar unit that requires holes could be a 50x50mm receiver hitch style, typically seen as the heavy duty unit. These have the advantage of easily removing the tow ball tongue/hitch with a clip and a pin. I pulled one from a 2002 foz and sold it here locally with all bolts and trailer wiring for $AU120. Holes needed to be drilled at the top of the spare tyre well where sandwich plates were fitted from memory. I much prefer the self serve yards - when you know what you need and can get EVERYTHING rather than having to communicate with the wreckers about all the little bits that complete the kit (this happened to me recently with a good self serve and “premium” wreckers... just the small but critical items x2). Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, el_freddo said: The tow bar unit that requires holes could be a 50x50mm receiver hitch style, typically seen as the heavy duty unit. These have the advantage of easily removing the tow ball tongue/hitch with a clip and a pin. Worth mentioning: I've towed boats all over this continent for 40 years with an insert pinned as described above. Then, a couple of summers ago, we were on our way across the Rockies from BC back to Alberta - climbing a hill, in the rain, in heavy traffic - when the pin chose to take its leave. First and only time I've ever been saved by the safety chains, and now every one of our towing vehicles has a locking pin. No more of that spring clip nonsense for me again, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, el_freddo said: (Sorry, posting glitch) Edited October 2, 2021 by jonathan909 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, el_freddo said: (sorry, posting glitch) Edited October 2, 2021 by jonathan909 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Yeah wow mate, that’s crazy! Dunno how that could happen without the retainer pin being removed. Cheers Bennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Somehow the spring clip "went away", and the pin just vibrated out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 I don't see the place where a tow hitch designed to bolt up would actually fit. I did not see plastic grommets in the chassis that would pop out to make way for a hitch, are these in all these cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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