jimscat Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I did a search and could not find what I was looking for. I have a 93 Legacy wagon 25th edition 2.2 with 141,000 miles. I have never gotten more then 200 miles out of a tank of gas (mostly city driving) exept when I have run a constant 70-75 out on the highway and I can get better then 300. Any ideas on what I should be looking at or replacing? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unverviking Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I have the same car. 93 Legacy Wagon, AWD, 5 Speed, with now 200k on it. My last tank I got 22 MPG, about 240 Miles to the tank (City, plus first real cold and a lot of idling). During the summer, I took a 500 + mile trip in 9 hours. I averaged 30 MPG, that with a 500 LBs of cargo plus my father-in-law, and myself. I weigh 250, and I know my father-in-law is bigger than I am. I went about 285-300 miles on fillups, but only filled about 3/4th's a tank when I filled up (started with only a 1/2 tank). This was in August, with the A/C blowing ICE cold on MAX. I can't complain about that... I changed the Spark Plugs in June, I put in standard old NGK's. No wires. I bought the car with 190k on it from a family friend, he claimed 27 MPG, he drove it mostly highway to work. He sold it cuz ne wanted BETTER mileage than that. He bought a Jetta TDI, claims 49 MPG with it. I would look at your plugs, wires, air filter, possibly fuel filter. If you're not already using it, try 5w30 oil. That's all I've ever done to get back some gas mileage. Always seemed to work for me... Happy Holidays, hope that this helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattocs Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Is the 200 until the low fuel light comes on or it gets to E? When my 95 Legacy and 96 OBW get to E they both have about 5 gallons left...and when t he light comes on, about 2. I get 24 average in my OBW and I never paid attention in my Legacy, but i'd say it was around the same. At 60MPH for 300 miles I got an average of 30.5 once...but I don't do all that much highway driving at constant speeds. Do some injector cleaner, and new plugs and wires. Cheap stuff, and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimscat Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 I fogot to mention it is an auto. I have done everything but the oil and no improvements. A little worse now that its cold. Dont have a low fuel light that Iknow of Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subarunation 713 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I fogot to mention it is an auto. I have done everything but the oil and no improvements. A little worse now that its cold. Dont have a low fuel light that Iknow of Thanks. I have the exact same setup as UnverViking. I get 27 in the summer with a combination of highway and city and now that it is cold (10 to 30 degrees) I have dropped down to 22 to 24 with the same combination of highway and city. This car has been the same way for the last 2+ years I have owned it and the 91 Legacy before that and the 90 Legacy before that. All 2.2 AWD 5 speeds. You could spend $500 on new o2 sensors, plugs, wires and injectors and probably notice an increase of about 2 to 3 mpg. At $1.80 per gallon $500 buys you about 275 gallons of gas. It would take you 50,000 miles to make up the difference. 50,000 miles divided by 22mpg equals 2,273 gallons. 50,000 miles divided by 25mpg equals 2,000 gallons. There is your 275 gallon difference. Assuming gas stays at $1.80. just my 2 cents, Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnuman Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I fogot to mention it is an auto. I have done everything but the oil and no improvements. A little worse now that its cold. Dont have a low fuel light that Iknow of Thanks. You have one. they had them in '92, and I can't see Subaru removing them. In my '92 it is a square yellow light to the bottom left of the fuel guage. If you do not know it is there, you have never hit it. . . All of the things I would try have already been mentioned earlier in this thread. This is assuming that you have already checked tire pressure, air filter, and plugs. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowboy Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I did a search and could not find what I was looking for. I have a 93 Legacy wagon 25th edition 2.2 with 141,000 miles. I have never gotten more then 200 miles out of a tank of gas (mostly city driving) exept when I have run a constant 70-75 out on the highway and I can get better then 300. Any ideas on what I should be looking at or replacing? Jim Jim, I have a 93 Legacy Auto, and I get 24-26 mixed driving, but the gas guage always shows empty at around 200-240 miles. There are older posts that detail the problem with the gas guages, so I let mine go until the low fuel light came on. It is a yellow square next to the guage, but you won't see it until it comes on. I get up to 330-340 before the light comes on, and then, as other posts mention, you've got 2 more gallons. Kowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnuman Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Jim, I have a 93 Legacy Auto, and I get 24-26 mixed driving, but the gas guage always shows empty at around 200-240 miles. There are older posts that detail the problem with the gas guages, so I let mine go until the low fuel light came on. It is a yellow square next to the guage, but you won't see it until it comes on. I get up to 330-340 before the light comes on, and then, as other posts mention, you've got 2 more gallons. Kowboy I tend to fill up before the light goes on (unless it is the end of the month and I'm out of cash for gas) as I like to be able to decide on which gas station to go to. In this area, when you are down to 2gal you run out of options fast. . . I have noticed that when I'm close to that level, the light goes on sometimes and then goes back out (I'm guessing that it has a lot to do with how level the car is). When you mention that you have 2gal, is that when the light comes on and stays on? or is it from the first time the light gets lit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimscat Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 I read trhough the related posts, I guess I am almost on the money with what everyone seems to be getting. +/- conditions and driving style. Where are the fuel filter(s) located? Thanks everyone. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unverviking Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Where are the fuel filter(s) located? Thanks everyone. Jim Jim, The Fuel Filter is located on the inside of the driver's side strut tower, under the hood. It has a couple of rubber hoses attached to it from the top. 1 of which goes to the intake area. On my 93, it is black (fairly large) cylinder shaped. It is held to the tower with a spring style clamp. Looks fairly easy to swap out, providing that the hoses slip off easily. Seeing that you are in Maine, I would get it in from the cold for a little while, so that the hoses can at least warm up to be somewhat pliable. Wouldn't want to snap a hose due to the cold. Good Luck, Happy Holidays Mark U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subarunation 713 Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I read trhough the related posts, I guess I am almost on the money with what everyone seems to be getting. +/- conditions and driving style. Where are the fuel filter(s) located? Thanks everyone. Jim It is right next to the winshield washer tank. You will need a phillips scredriver and a rag to catch the gas and a regular pliers to twist the hose off(don't go crazy and cut up the fuel line with the pliars). If you have a cup of coffe while you do it it should take you 15 minutes. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksoob Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 It is right next to the winshield washer tank. You will need a phillips scredriver and a rag to catch the gas and a regular pliers to twist the hose off(don't go crazy and cut up the fuel line with the pliars). If you have a cup of coffe while you do it it should take you 15 minutes. Greg Wrap the line in a rag to prevent the pliers from cutting into it. I've had luck with doing it in the morning after not having driven it overnight. No problems with pressurized fuel line or fuel sprayage. In fact, I just realized that when I did mine last week, I forgot to open the gas cap before I did it (usually recommended to relieve pressure). All was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimscat Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 thanks guys. With the holidays it looks like it will be after the first of the year before I can get it changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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