Phaedras Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that many people do not think highly of Loyales, which I presume is the cause of there hardly being any threads on "pimping" out Loyales. It's usually a GL or RX that gets all the attention. Isn't the Loyale simply a later version of these cars, with the exact same engine? Is there a reason why they aren't very desirable? Not that I feel ostracized for driving one, I'm just curious as to why everyone hates my baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormer Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 i have one i got from georgia for my wife- clean and in nice shape. put a 5spd dr in in. she drives it daily. 30 mpg. so i dont hate them. same as a gl except for some minor trim differences- does not have the rear cargo light, and some other odds and ends. big deal. basically the same car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxalplyx Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Not that I feel ostracized for driving one, I'm just curious as to why everyone hates my baby You have some 'underground' peeps who feel the same way as you. A turbocharged Loyale I'd think would be desirable. Don't sweat it. It is what it is. Start a forum about the Loyale and they will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFahrer Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I wasn't hating, I just said they only have 90 hp I'd love to have one, I almost bought a Loyale wagon about 6 months ago but it was too rusted out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 i like the loyales, they are what i learned to wrench on. they are also incredabley reliable. enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasteland Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I love my '94 Loyale! good gas milage, great in snow, my wife likes to drive it, it's a great car. I use it as a family car/grocery getter/commuter, it's awsome. If I didn't have 3 other Subie projects I'd be pimpin the hell out of it, but that will have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenTBK Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 CAUSE LOYALES SUCK! heheh.. just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Its not the loyales we hate.. Its the owners!! J/K Truth be told, the average Loyale was simply a stripped down GL. reat utilitarian vehicle, but thats about it. The earlier cars had more available options (turbo and such) to up the fun factor a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaedras Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 There we go. Now I can go back to my beater-turned-sleeper Loyale projects without feeling like I need a RX Turbo :-) Wait, I still feel like I need a RX Turbo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushbasher Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Ive actually been thinking about getting a loyale as a new body for my 4x4 drivetrain. They are newer, so they often have less rust around here. The things that make the loyale less desireable IMO are the non-dual range trannys and the lower trim level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefvos Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 you can't beat my deal on a '91 Loyale 165k for $200, just needed some TLC. new brakes all around, fuel/air filter, plugs, o2, sensor tierod ends, battery, alternator and had to clean the elec. window contacts.yeah it had 90hp stock 14 yrs ago and now it probably has 60hp, but the 4wd works and it runs like a top. and the taxes are $50/yr and the insurance is sooo cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 why do peepl hate loyales... its that damn parking light switch. they are usualy spfi, they arent dual range, subaru was thinkin more about the ejs at that time, and just got rid of what they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I like those Loyales. They were never available in europe, but I would like to have one for me as a daily driver. The Leone from 1989 until 1992 were only available as Station DL with 95hp engine and dual range in austria. Lukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom63050 Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Everyone has to find the niche they are comfortable in. I bought a nice lifted 84 wagon, but discovered it just wasn't me. So I got a 4WD Loyale wagon, lifted it and put on 27x8.50/14s for a total of 6" body lift (3" lift kit + 3"-radius taller tires). I love it! Gonna do the D/R 5-speed swap and maybe an LSD to do it right. With SPFI, A/C, power steering and being more modern than the pre-1985s, it's the right blend for me. And just because it's newer and more modern, I expect parts are easier to find and there's less rusting. Japanese manufacturers started treating their cars for rusting in the late 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef_tim Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Hey Tom, did you have to cut any to get those tyres on it??? Tim. Oh yeah, I've got two GL wagons, I'd take a Loyale if one came avilable for cheap and in the area. Later, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Actually rustproofing started for Soobs in 1985 - though it took a while for them to get it down. I know of a 1992 Loyale that does have a D/R tranny from the factory. I have nothing against the Loyales, I think they are a very good car. I personally prefer the 1985/86 GL cars of all the EA82 cars because of the different control layout, and the dark blue interior offered. Other than that, I have nothing against them. People who own newer cars probably don't like them because they are old and "boxy" - I say look at the newer Cadillacs before you call my Soob boxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefvos Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 its that damn parking light switch. haha, i love it...and the door lock light , it was made for a bad neighborhood where you need to lock your doors while you are driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 i think of the loyale as a DL with a tachometer. unlike the dl, the loyale willhave the plugs on the harness for features that didnt come standard, such as power windows, rear speakers, and the map lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxalplyx Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Truth be told, the average Loyale was simply a stripped down GL. reat utilitarian vehicle, but thats about it. The earlier cars had more available options (turbo and such) to up the fun factor a little.This is interesting! So you are saying that a turbocharged version of the Loyale is lighter than a comparable GL10 vehicle (like a 4 door GL10 Loyale vs a 4 door 1986 GL10). Hrrmmm! How much do Loyales weigh anyways? Edit: Just found this on 'Joe Spitz' site. "WEIGHT (lbs)- curb weight: AWD Wagon - 2,635, AWD sedan - manual 2,490, auto 2,510 Front wheel drive: Wagon manual 2,490, auto 2,510, Sedan - manual 2,355, auto 2,395" An AWD sedan is only 2490lbs. Hrrmmmm! FWD manual is 2355lbs. Hrmm, hrmmmm! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 GLs, and RXs came from the factory with things like d/r trannies, turbo, adjustable suspension, etc. There is less work to be done on a GL to make it a good offroader than with a Loyale. Like Bushbasher said, I foresee a lot of people using Loyale bodies with GL trannies and such in the near future due to the fact that the newer bodies are more available and have less rust on them. So, in short, it's easier to start with a GL to make an offroader or an RX to make a rally car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 the only thing i *HATE* is the name. Leone is MUCH better. you've got these rednecks up here and all around that call even an 87 RX...a "looooooyyyy-AAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL"....and i HATE HATE HATE that with a passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subarubrat Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I am not really into them myself, not any more than any other wagon unless they have been modified to some great degree to make them more interesting. I don't find any other station wagon thrilling and I won't just because it has my brand on it. Don't confuse that to mean that I don't respect their durability and practicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom63050 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Hey Tom, did you have to cut any to get those tyres on it??? Tim. Just today I took the BFH to it to knock down about 1/16" to 1/8" at the rear of both front fender wells, for the tires to clear. That was the only mod necessary. Tires are just under 27" tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royboy159 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Car owners in general dislike Soob owners 'cause they can be so happy with so little. And everyone hates Loyale owners 'cause they're too happy with too little for too long. -------------------------- 93 Loyale sedan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 What's little? Soobs (particularly newer ones) have available options that were/are not readily available on other cars at the time they were made, and the features cost less and work better. I think the reason people hate Soobs is it makes their $40+k SUV look like crap in bad weather. Or it may be the size ... but that's their problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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