DrKrazy Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Okay so after noticing the difference of chopping out the airbox silencer and making swiss cheese of the bottom of the air box into the fenderwell (still looks stock from the top)..which was a bit of labor.....well screw it I went and bought: So my question is are you guys using a tad bit of sealant to mate the adapter to the MAF or justing bolting it straight up? I'm thinking just a nice small bead of sealant.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Mine had a thin foam gasket which worked really nicely. Be sure whatever you use isn't going to get sucked into the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkiller Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 hmm, mine didnt come with any gasket, just bolted on and went for it...btw, how much was that k&n? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Just bolted straight on.. theres a little rubber O ring on the mating surface of the MAF.. should work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtlover Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 My Maf sensor thing is so close to the fender that i dont know if i will be able to fit in a filter? But your RX is a Ea82T the sane as my XT, is it gonna fit?? whats the model # of that filter package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4WDFrenzy Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Mine just bolted on as well. Like Caleb was explaining, there is a rubber O-ring gasket that goes between the MAF and the factory air box that should be just fine to seal off any air that might make it in without being filtered first. If you don't have this gasket or your gasket is the victim of excessive heat(meaning that it is heat hardened to the point that it cannot be reused), then you might want to go to the parts store and buy this gasket maker made by Permatex(if I remember right). It is an elastomeric rubber compound that comes in a can with a tip attached(kinda like the cheese that comes in the can that can be applied to crackers, or direct oral injection as a party favor:lol: !). But anyway, this stuff(not the cheese) makes some of the best gaskets I have ever had the pleasure of using. Only downside is it costs like $12 a can, but I think it makes like 10-12 gaskets. As far as air filter fitment goes, if you are having doubts about a cone filter fitting, you might want to purchase a foam HKS mushroom style air filter instead. They tend to give a little more clearance for mounting and are still washable and reusable. And the good thing is you can buy one on Ebay for like $21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKrazy Posted February 8, 2005 Author Share Posted February 8, 2005 Cool didn't know about the rubber gasket. I paid $53 for the adapter + K&N + shipping to my door off ebay. I'm not concerned about it fitting, I'll make it fit if necessary but I doubt I'll have to, there should be plenty of room for it. For those that were asking the K&N filter number is RU-3570, the adapter is for a 90's nissan. I will install it tomorrow since I have the day off and post pictures of it when I'm done so guys know how it fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKrazy Posted February 9, 2005 Author Share Posted February 9, 2005 Ok so I installed it today, took way longer than I expected due to finding some other problems I had to take care of too. My adapter didn't bolt up (think I got the wrong year/make nissan) but I just drilled some new bolt holes through it. I had to cut about inch and half off the rubber of the K&N where it meets the adapter, and rotate the air intake a bit to make it fit. It fits though, and makes the turbo/recirc valve MUCH louder. Power seemed to improve a bit but nothing too noticeable. Pics for the masses: (for those wondering what the green wires are, they are extra grounds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxalplyx Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Nice! At least some people got a part# or two so they can try this themselves. Good thing you didn't go out and get one of those 'ghetto' air filters. They aren't as good as a K&N (well some of them anyways). The ones with the 'pantyhose wire' filter makes more power but they don't filter anything smaller than dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 My "ghetto" filter kit came with a cork gasket... If it didnt I would have used RTV:brow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but what's with the cone style air filters anyway? To me, you're losing power by sucking in hot engine compartment air rather than the colder air from the wheel well... okay, maybe my frame of reference is too limited here - I've only owned XT6es. But don't other old school roos use the fender area air boxes? It seems to me that the colder denser air from 8" further out would be a lot better than the hotter, thinner air from inside the engine bay. Also, while I'm baring my true feelings about the things, I have stupidly driven one of my cars for about 5 miles with NO air filter (paved streets, no major dust/dirt). In fact I was on my way to buy another one at the time and I just wanted to evaluate how the ER27 would benefit from zero air restriction. Uh, nuthin', nada, zilch, zippo, goose egg, no return on the radar sir... I didn't notice a damned bit of difference in terms of performance, etc. Absolutely nothing. My point? Well, it's just that - what's the point? Sorry to sound so negative about it, but I'm just stating my perspective for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4WDFrenzy Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Well, I really don't have to worry about hot air too much. I fabbed a 3" fenderwell intake with a stainless steel cone filter on the end. It works a heck of alot better than the factory stuff did, but then again, I have an EA82T motor under the hood of my GL-10 Wagon. Alot of times, most street driven cars require the slight restriction that the air filter produces to create torque. when you run no air filter element, you actually lose torque, but you should, should being the key word, gain top end horsepower. But alot of the torque is also produced by the intake pipe(ie:diameter, length of pipe), and also the exhaust pipe(length, diameter, type of muffler used, catalytic converter, etc.) as well. But as we're not talking about exhaust, you can kinda ignore that. Basically, a low(low, not NO) restriction air filter and a tuned length pipe will create more torque and better hp numbers than just adding a cone filter to the factory intake piping. This is true in NA vehicles as well as turbocharged vehicles, but your gains will usually be higher on an engine with some sort of forced induction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie94 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 when i had my filter on my 92 legacy,didn't get much for hp gain but it did change my throttle response for the better.gonna have to do some mods to get it to fit my 94cuz the abs systems in the way.byw who really needs abs anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKrazy Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 Well I can only speak for myself but below my cone filter there is several big holes drilled through my fenderwell and it blows cool air from where the original housing sucked it in (or at least I hope it does. When you look at the original air intake/silencer in the fenderwell it's hard to believe a turbo car could breathe through it. You also have to remember that the EA82T is a turbo engine, which means as soon as the air hits the turbo it's going to get super heated anyways. Which is why alot of us run Intercoolers. Just my 2 cents, well maybe 1 cent since it's early and I just woke up. And yes I agree on throttle response, didn't gain any noticeable power but the response is much much better and the car can breath in the upper RPM's alot better too. Plus there is always that Bling factor of having a K&N that's visible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 quote below my cone filter there is several big holes drilled through my fender well and it blows cool air from where the original housing sucked it in (or at least I hope it does. unquote Best keep on "hoping" Take a quick peek at the radiator fan on the pass. side. This comes on when the AC is on or the themoswitch in the rad asks for it to come on. Now ask yourself - will that fan with the assistance of the air coming through the grill offset and therefore force it's hot air into the space you say is being pressurized by air blowing in from the nearly static air space in the inner fender. Since you are into butchering your fender well, why not drill a three inch hole and put the bling into the inner fender. These MAFs respond quite well to a small volume of air sitting immediately outside of their input flange. A port from a sub woofer enclosure is a very good idea also. This port corrects the impedance mismatch. see the left hand side of this picture of my lump . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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