mattyg41383 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 To all you who have put Delta's reground cams in your subis, did you go ahead and replace the Lifters and Springs as recommended. I am seriously considering getting some done (EA82t) and want to know what its gonna end up costing me with all that stuff considered. I'm going to go with the performance grind cause its a track car. *edit* I searched but didnt find much on that stuff specifically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 you should replace the followers. Springs and stock HVLA's are ok as long as the HVLAs are clean and you are using the 260 grind. The 272 is the one you should get springs and solid VLA's for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 I cleaned up and reused my old followers and HVLAs but put in new springs. Been working great for over 10,000 miles so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg41383 Posted February 14, 2005 Author Share Posted February 14, 2005 I am thinking of the big 272 grind, so looks like I'll need to get springs and whatnot. Any recommendations on where i can get some to satisfy the new bump rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Ram engines has springs www.ramengines.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxalplyx Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 To all you who have put Delta's reground cams in your subis, did you go ahead and replace the Lifters and Springs as recommended. Nope! Who recommended this? Not DeltaCams for older scoobies. Here's what I said in this thread: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11592&page=2&pp=10&highlight=DeltaCams I know what you are saying Robm. The DeltaCams site recommends this with their new cam grinds. This concerns me as I have already spend $500+ on new lifters for my XT6 about a year or two ago and planned on never to do this again. Here's the link to the DeltaCams helpful tips section. http://www.deltacam.com/tech.htm "1. Always use new lifters when installing a new camshaft. The bottoms of the lifters are spherically convex ground, and the cam lobes are ground with taper. The mating of these two surfaces ensures that the lifter will rotate, thus reducing the chance of premature wear. If you install used lifters on a new or reground camshaft, early failure is almost certain." That last part in bold is what bothered me. Everything on my XT6 is almost certain to fail. :-p Fortunately, it seems people here haven't had a lot (or any) problems with their new cam grind. Unfortunately, I wouldn't fit in the same category as there are no XT6 cam grinds available....yet. I just need balls big enough to be the guinea pig. *Thinking* ........*shaking* Here's what DeltaCams had to say: Kevin, Lifters that run against the cam lobe should always be resurfaced or replaced, as in the EA81 engine. The followers that run against overhead camshafts should be inspected to make sure the following surface is free from wear. The EA82 and EJ22 engines have nearly bullet proof cams and rockers and usually don't need replacing. We will inspect and resurface, if necessary, any rocker sent to us. Thanks, Jerry @ Delta Cams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg41383 Posted February 15, 2005 Author Share Posted February 15, 2005 Thanks for the info kevin, I'm still concerned about the springs, as I would be going with the big grind, and dont want the springs to bind or anything like that. I mean, if its not necessary to change them, then I would be more than happy to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Do as you see fit, I am using the old springs/followers/HVLs I think Delta would caution us if spring bind were a problem. I have seen 7+ grand and never expierenced valve float. As for the 272 - don't forget to grease glue the shims that come with the cam onto HVLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcomp Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 i am working on a oddball theory .. but sincei have a turbo dodge minivan it looks like the cam setup is the same . wich means there may be a possibility of having cam follower's with rollers in them ... next junkyard run i will graba few and check if anyone is interested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay95 Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 how did those cams work in your xt6 i was looking at geting a pair because it just drops off so fast but it will rev to 7500+ rpm(did it one but dont want to go further up) was the power band 3000-6500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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