can an ea82 handle hydrogen power

[Ross]

I believe he was probably using a catalyst to help separate the water molecules.

This has been achieved many times, but the prblem is that any catalysts that have been found to work tend to be expensive. With a lawn mower engine, the catalyst may last a while. Once you start using it on a bigger engine, you may go through more moneys worth of catalyst material than your saving in gas.

What i have written sounds like BS to me, cos i was under the impression that, by definition, a catalyst is not used up in a reaction.

Thats what ive heard though.

[LPGsuperchargedBrumby]

I believe he was probably using a catalyst to help separate the water molecules.

This has been achieved many times, but the prblem is that any catalysts that have been found to work tend to be expensive. With a lawn mower engine, the catalyst may last a while. Once you start using it on a bigger engine, you may go through more moneys worth of catalyst material than your saving in gas.

What i have written sounds like BS to me, cos i was under the impression that, by definition, a catalyst is not used up in a reaction.

Thats what ive heard though.

 

catalysts can't be used up but they can be fouled by contaminants so the don't work after a period of time

[dragonwingsubaru]

i have found a few sites that have mentioned about using a catalist even found 1 or 2 that go into a little more detail and says that it will only cost about .3 cdn per gallon for it but ill be damned if they tell what the catalist is,

 

my father is skeptical on this but he is gonna help fund me with some extra money to try a few systems out and see which works best or which mixture of systems works best. its gonna prob be a very slow process as it will be done in my spare time but i will be sure to take plenty of pics and catalog the whole process.

now time to get building i guess.

CHIM ill have to check into that exhaust reactor setup as i havent heard of anything like that yet in any of my reasearch. obviously it works though after you prime it up.

[Vanislru]

i have found a few sites that have mentioned about using a catalist even found 1 or 2 that go into a little more detail and says that it will only cost about .3 cdn per gallon for it but ill be damned if they tell what the catalist is...

Aluminum oxide, I think I'll try to find the site again.

[hooziewhatsit]

CHIM ill have to check into that exhaust reactor setup as i havent heard of anything like that yet in any of my reasearch. obviously it works though after you prime it up.

 

is this what you're talking about CHIM? http://www.geet.com/

 

basically, they 'claim' to produce a plasma by running the fuel/water through a pipe through the exhaust in opposing directions. I did some research on this and found basically the creator of it was a big scam artist :-\

 

Although, I have a friend who helped another friend convert a generator to run on this system. They got it working, and it sounds like it didn't use much gas, but..... I don't think they documented how much gas it used normally... so.. who knows if it really works.

[breaffyaviation]

Remember,there is no such thing as a free lunch. Free perpetual motion has only been achieved by one man ,who only comes out once a year and operates a sleigh.A Mr S Claus I think.

Now seriously,lets look at the subject.You are talking about four different things here .First ,running your car on Hydrogen, Definitely possible and has been done.

We experimented with this back in 73 and 74 but due to the fact that hydrogen could not be readily found ,we used propane instead.Car lost about 10 mph at the top end,burned about 10% more fuel,but it was readily available and dead cheap.We had a button to press which injected both propane and gasoline at the same time if you needed a burst.I ran the system for years and the only ill effect was some valve trouble due to a lack of upper cylinder lubricant in the lpg.Hydrogen in my opinion should not cause any ill effects to a stock engine.

 

 

Now to issue number 2

Storing hydrogen is the problem.It takes too much energy to liquify the hydrogen but it can be carried in gas form.The problem is it takes up 4 times the volume of gasoline for a 10% increase in efficiency.

 

Issue number 3

It takes way more energy to produce the hydrogen by electrolysis than your engine will produce.The only way hydrogen vehicles will become viable as hydrogen burners is by using hydrogen produced by nightime hydro,wind farms or other renewables.Burning coal to produce electricity to make hydrogen is only moving the pollution from the road to the powerstation.

 

 

Issue number 4. Using spare capacity off peak electricity produced by renewables to make hydrogen to charge fuel cells. These do not burn the gas

but produce the electricity back thro chemical action to power electric motors in the cars of the future.

To get back to your situation,your car will run on hydrogen.

You will not get it from water in any useful quantity onboard.

Set up a wind turbine in your yard to produce the hydrogen,

Dont believe anyone who tells you water will burn(ask any fireman)

 

 

 

Please keep us infomed of your progress and congratulations on your spirit.

 

May be I could run an airplane on this ,no weight fuel and plenty of storage space behind the seats?

Goodnight all

Jude

[CHIM]

yes that was the idea of running the exhaust and intake togeather, but he was using water, jar was empty, till he filled it with water, Gave me a drink, used all of a few dropes of gas that he put direcly into the chanmber by removing the spark plug.

 

No 50/50 mix, just water.

 

I'll get more info on what he did.