hatchsub Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Does anyone know if putting a new Accel superstock (or super coil not sure which) would make a difference in the performance of my 83 EA-81. It has the orginal coil i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 There has been quite a bit of talk on this. Do a search and also look here http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/article.php?a=87. Accel super stock coil is the same size as a stock coil. a Super Coil is a lot bigger and is made of some sort of Yellow plastic, but will bolt in the stock location, I put one on my Brat. I haven't driven it, to tell you that the performace has increased, but it does seem to start better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeEyedBandit Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I hear it is ok if you mount it vertically but otherwise dont waste you money, it will run good then let you down. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I have a MSD Blaster 3 coil and while I can't comment on any performance gains (It was installed while the car was being worked on), it definatly has NOT left me stranded like many who run the Accel coils have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBrumby Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 The bulk of the performance gains to be made is being able to run a wider gap for your spark plugs. Longer spark, better combustion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 The old EA performance article by Subiemech went into some depth as to why these coils are better than stock. Apparently these new high voltage coils misfire a lot less than the factory ones. That, plus being able to run a wider gap, helps to at least make it smoother and improve drivability. Like carfreak, I've had good luck with the MSD Blaster coil, specifically the high vibaration model. The accel coil is filled with oil for cooling and stuff, while the MSD hi-vibe is completely filled with epoxy in order to accomplish the same job. When the accel lays flat, the oil doesn't cover everything, and they tend to burn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I'll second the MSD Blaster Coil. Had an accel, burned out. Blaster works a lot better (cleaner idle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Accell coil = Me owned 70 miles from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenw22 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I've had Accel coils in my cars for several years now without any problems. They're all vertically-mounted (in place of the standard ea-82 coil). I mainly bought it because every parts place wanted double the price for the OEM part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Accel Super Coil is oil filled and can be mouted in any position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 To answer your question about performance; don't expect much... or anything that you can tell by the seat of your pants. Only reason I run one is becuase I had bought it for my old 472ci V8 and never put it in. Found it one day and poped it into my Subaru. Didnt notice any difference in performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaedras Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I've heard things about the taiwanese manufactured Accels crapping out on people, and the US made ones didnt fail quite as often. Apparently production had been switched quite a while ago. Now the used one I just bought says "Made in USA". I hope this means I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasteland Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Don't do it, I had one for about 20 driving hours and it crapped out on me. The company won't even stand behind them! I had a customer service guy tell me I was lucky it lasted as long as it did! I've heard things about the taiwanese manufactured Accels crapping out on people I heard the same thing, once they started making them out of country they turned to crap. I'm back to OE and loving it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBrumby Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Accel Super Coil is oil filled and can be mouted in any position. If they dont totally fill it with oil and you mount it horizontally it can leave an air buble over a bulk of the wirings and lead to overheating of the windings. This might explain why some people get stranded because of it and some ppl swear they can mount it at any angle with no bad effects. Luck of the draw, just a thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastchance Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I installed one in my turbo wagon... It was rad for like a week...Car idled good...Then died and left me stranded...Now I have a personal vandetta against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 If they dont totally fill it with oil and you mount it horizontally it can leave an air buble over a bulk of the wirings and lead to overheating of the windings. This might explain why some people get stranded because of it and some ppl swear they can mount it at any angle with no bad effects. Luck of the draw, just a thought?Read!! Super Coil - Not Super Stock coil. Two different animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Ok, So I've already jumped off this bridge as it were.... I baught myself a yellow accel coil(since it was yellow) and put it in my car. It Idles much smoother, but with what you guys are saying I need to mount it vertically... Whats the best/easiest way of doint this? Using one bolt hole and turning the mount? I should also hit up Rick too cuz I baught him one for his B-day:banghead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 phil, just turn the mount like you said. drill holes/add yellow nuts and bolts as needed. shouldn't be too hard hard to figure out as you go, not much in the way really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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