Manual Tranny Swap Problem...

[Steveman09]

Ok as you all know I have been swapping from auto to 5-speed d/r 4wd :

 

 

I purchased a LUK 88-91 XT6 Clutch Kit to install

 

I have a flywheel from a XT Turbo (Ea82) And Had it machined.

 

Everything is together but the clutch fork has no pressure in it and just flops back and forth It's acting like it cant touch the pressure plate fingers to release them. When I turn the crank and wheels move, when I push the fork the wheels still move!

 

HELP

 

Could the tranny be wrong? EA81 possibly?

[erik litchy]

perhaps you can take some slack out of the linkage by adjusting the cable?

[Steveman09]

I dont have the cable even installed yet, it doesnt matter since there is NO resistance on the FORK of the transmission.

 

 

I just got done removing the tranny and we found the problem.

 

It seems the XT6 Pressure Plate and EA82 Flywheel have a compatability issue since when the pressure plate is tightened down to the flywheel all the fingers flatten out! This is why the release bearing and fork dont reach the fingers and release the clutch. The XT6 Pressure Plate is too thick on the friction surface for the EA82 Flywheel! I'm agravated right now since lots of people said it would work on these forums, but obviously no one really tried it completly. Also a guy said machining the STEP on the EA82 Flywheel fixes my problems but this is just a bandaid, because the REAL problem is the Total Depth of the EA82 Flywheel is much smaller than the XT6 Flywheel, so machining the EA82 Flywheel to bring the fingers out of the XT6 Flywheel WOULD work, BUT this would make the XT6 Flywheel MUCH weaker thus defeating the whole purpose of running an XT6 Clutch in an EA82-T Motor.

 

So now I have 2 options :

 

1. Find a XT6 Flywheel (good luck)

2. Buy a EA82-T Clutch (another $160) And Hopfully return the XT6 Clutch but I doubt they will take it back.

 

GRRR, if anyone in the portland area has a tip on where to get an XT6 Flywheel quick let me know ASAP since my car is torn down and I need to drive it next week. PM me.

[Steveman09]

anyone?

[Caboobaroo]

the EA82T flyhwheel works BUT it has to be machined to XT6 specs, not EA82T specs since the pressure plate is a hair bigger. There's a step on the machinable surface that has to be machined down to match the rest of the flywheel in order for the XT6 clutch kit to work. If you need to have it machined to the right specs, PM Mudrat79 and ask him if he can do it for you. I believe he charges 30 bucks or so for it to be done.

[Skip]

Steve, I do not wish to raise your irk anymore than it is

 

but

 

I have turned many EA82T and XT6 flywheels as seen below.

 

The "step" you are referring to is very close to the same distance when they come from the factory.

 

I am guessing the machined flywheel you have as been machined incorrectly, or you have some mismatched parts.

 

This XT6 package has been used by many and has been used successfuly

I am sorry you are having problems.

 

Some of my work...for reference only

[Steveman09]

So let me get this right....

 

 

If I have my EA82 Flywheel machined down to a certain spec (i'll pm mudrat) then this XT6 Clutch will work, I understand this, but doing this lowers the grip the pressure plate exerts on the Clutch disc, basically it will work just fine for a stock ea82-t, but with my modified motor its basically a waste of time since the XT6 Clutch isnt really working like it was intented, this would explain why WJM said when he did a XT6 Clutch on his EA82-T (modified) it slipped exactly the same as the stock EA82-T clutch....

 

 

Is it possible that my XT Turbo (EA82-T) flywheel and GL WAGON D/R 5-speed Tranny have a compatability issue? I wouldn't think so since its been said all EA82 flywheels/trannys work together....

 

Anyways I just got back from all the u-pull it's around and could not find a XT6 Flywheel so I'm struck.

 

I'm going to go pickup a EA82 Clutch Kit this afternoon and see if that fixes my problems.

 

Sorry If I sound pissy right now, I'm just really agravated since I swapped the Rear Diff, shift linkages, re wired the car, put the tranny in, drive shaft, all for nothing.

[Caboobaroo]

I got a stage 2 clutch kit from Will for 165 bucks plus shipping. Unfortunatly, he can't get them anymore since the shop that made them is 4+ hours away from him. If you wan to PM him, he can give you the number and whatnot for the shop but he told me he wasn't sure if they'd ship them or not, being why I had him get it for me and ship it to me.

[Steveman09]

Yeah, I have been looking for performance ea82 clutchs with no luck, I did however find out that CENTERFORCE is making a Dual Friction Unit for the EA82 that will be shipping to stores starting 6/13/05 tho!

 

I'll end up switching to that clutch later on since I'm sure to need it with the TD04 and TMIC.

[Steveman09]

Ok I finally got it all fixed and working, I had to go buy a new EA82-T Clutch Kit and it works great!!!!

 

In the future I will remember to use XT6 Clutch Kit's with an XT6 Flywheel, I checked around and called a bunch of subaru guru's and found a difference of about .012 between the EA82 and XT6 Flywheels, this is why my throwout bearing was never releasing the clutch, it just couldn't reach it enough.

 

Thanks for the replies I appreciate it.

 

I'm going to stick with this Borg and Beck Sach's Clutch for now until the Centerforce Dual Friction EA82 Clutch comes out