resurrection ver. #? and a Question.

[electryc_monk]

GRRRRRR (sorry but this is the short version... I got a 404error when i just tried to send this lengthy message so here is the short of it....

 

from initial purchase of this wagon (reference the geocities page showing the first mod's done to this wagon) and the MSN phot gallery of the lift install...

 

It's either at the 6th or 7th stage of resurection (depending on a point of reference) so I'm trying to figure out a new name for her as Silver D/Ragon isn't truely fitting anymore as its got the XT6 S/R in it now.

 

And now for the question:

 

As an initial idea I'm using muffler steel pipe to fab-up the route and lengths of pipe for the FMIC and figured on using Schedule 40 PVC as it'll easily handle the small PSI increase from the factory turbo and the heat of an enginebay. I am going to use some metal pipe for the first few inches off the turbo but.... why not use the PVC for to -and-from the intercooler? Or for that matter whynot frm the air cleaner to the turbo too?

 

If nothing else I'm able to to temp. (how long?) run it with the PVC it seems logical after all the airtemp.s in the piping shouldn't get anywhere above 200F. right?

 

Lastly I'll be finally wandering back to tejas when she's unp and ready....sooooo about a month from now...i guess?

 

later i'll do an update to my LJ too and bring things current with the knowledge gained from Bio-diesel and waste veggie oil conversions that I've had the benefit of learning from....

[calebz]

Steve,

 

I wouldn't rely on the PVC too much.. I have a little bit of it on my wagon for IC piping and I can tell you man.. It does not like to stay round when exposed to underhood temps:lol:

[Subarutex]

Use ABS, not PVC. The black pipe will hold upto Heat and pressure better.

[NorthWet]

Cited measured temps by other Board members for EA82T turbo outlet temps were in the 220-240degF range. I use not-quite boiling water to soften PVC in order to mold it into place; PVC can't take the heat. I once used it for an intake "log plenum" and airhorn stubs on a set of 40DCOEs, and it fell apart in a couple of months (it doesn't like gasoline, either). The black "ABS" pipe will hold up better to the temp and any stray gasoline or oil.

[electryc_monk]

ohhh me thinks I've stumbled onto a good topic for philosophizing(sp) :

 

I was going off my step-dad's advice to use a particular inert and rough chemical composition of polycarbonate and that's why i spewcifically used the term he(Step-Dad) said, "Schedule 40" Or even schedule 80. His reaction to the replies caused him to wonder what variety of PVC was used and which variety of ABS as well?

 

I went to google(I'm admitting that much here)[shrugs meekly] as i wanted to have some curiousity quenched -mentally speaking.

 

So here is what I'm making reference to:

 

Heat Deflection temperature of PVC versus ABS

 

Because a "drainpipe" version of PVC will be rather weak in its rigidity of sidewall strenght. Wouldn't it? After all its usually stamped a rating of nominal temp. and rather small PSI rating at 74 degree's F. right?

 

And then you have the PVC that's used for the hot water lines, well if they have PVC used for usage "under the bonnet" as this link makes reference to (Granted its a Nylon blen of PVC):

http://www.polymer-age.co.uk/k98/kpolymer.htm

 

[edit]yet at the same time i wandered around the google data for a update on PVC with regard to air pressure and petroleum froducts like oils and fuels.... The funny thing is the majority of the sites I'm wandering to (at this point in the evening) is they all have a therma barreir of approx 130-190 degrees F and a PSI max from 60-280.... go figure eh? And one site referenced ABS with a HDF of 223 degrees F at 264PSI and PVC(grey) was a skant 190 degrees at 264 PSI... go figure. So did i just shoot mytopic in the foot? Not really as these are but a few sites i've gleaned thru at this point.... I welcome the contiuned dialogue.[/edit]

 

So if for some reason i'm smoking crack ... fine I'll put the pipe down(pun inforced)

 

But, really what I'm really hoping is a good, thick, indepth dialogue on the use of and the logic both pro and con for the use of X versus Y.

 

Are we up for this topic?(whispers to Skip "I believe so")