Subi81 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 When I got it from the junk yard it didn't look that much bigger. smaller one is 16mm (sedan RX) larger one is 20mm (4wd XT). Definatly makes the car more tail happy at high speed can't really tell if it changed anything at low speed. Has anyone messed with xt6 front bars on a wagon? I think I might have to much stiffness in the rear now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I have XT6 bars. 19mm front 20mm rear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subi81 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 So does the rear end want to step out, or is it pretty nuetral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I have 20s front and rear.... between that and my springs, the car gets a little tailhappy occasionally, but its easy to control. I am a little more carefull in the rain, but then again, everyone else should be too;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I've driven a '87 turbowagon that had XT6 swaybars front and rear and it felt like it handled on rails. But then of course I also had a great feel for the car as well;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I have 20s front and rear.... between that and my springs, the car gets a little tailhappy occasionally, but its easy to control. I am a little more carefull in the rain, but then again, everyone else should be too;) Caleb's been in at least one situation where adding a 20mm to the rear makes the assend a little happy. As in good and sideways at about 60 mph in the imp. I caught it, but there was some pucker factor involved. I'm way more used to it after a couple of years behind the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Caleb's been in at least one situation where adding a 20mm to the rear makes the assend a little happy. As in good and sideways at about 60 mph in the imp. I caught it, but there was some pucker factor involved. I'm way more used to it after a couple of years behind the wheel. I remember that.. That was a lot of fun! Yeah.. there was a bit of pucker factor involved, but it was worth it..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subi81 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Well I am with you guys I can't stand understeer. Thanks for the replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravelRX Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Understeer is when you scare the driver. Oversteer is when you scare the passenger. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Oversteer: Front: -3.0 deg camber a TON of castor 350 lb spring 0 Toe Rear: 0.0 camber 1/2 inch toe out 450 lb spring If THAT doesnt give you enough oversteer...I dont know what will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I've been tempted to swap the rear out with a 19mm, and then put the 20mm back in and swap the front wiht a 19mm and see what makes a diff. in handling. I know a stiffer sway bar on one end will make it oversteer more, where a stiffer bar on the other end makes it understeer more but I can't remember which.. Gotta dig out my Wyotech suspension lecture Btw, the turbowagon Russ mentioned is mine and I think part of the reason it seems like it handles on rails is that now I have 20mm bars front and rear, where before it only had the stock 16mm or 18mm (What did GL turbo wagons come with??) in the front, and NO bar in the rear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 (What did GL turbo wagons come with??) IIRC, the stock one on my wagon was 15mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subi81 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 That is exatly what I am talking about scare the passenger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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