PennyMc Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 last time I posted everyone agreed that the timing belt was ca-put in my '92 station wagon loyale....so, after replacing both belts, cam thingee's, water pump, went to start up the car and it is turning over (not starting) and sounding worse than ever....like it's skipping or something...actually it's making the sound a car makes when the engine is already running and then you try to start it again (hope that makes sense)....what the heck's wrong? Please help...thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyMc Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Forgot to mention, timing was double and triple checked....what is going on?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 hard to say. typical issue with timing belt install is that it's not done properly. the cams have to be lined up perfectly. which isn't hard, but tyipcally it's done wrong the first time you do it...the cams are one notch off or more. or if the distributor was removed at all that thing is EASY to get lined up incorrectly. but it shouldn't be making a sound like the car doesn when trying to start after it's already running. important question: it never made this noise before the timing belt broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyMc Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 No it didn't, this is a new sound. Everything is lined up with the timing unless I'm missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 How did you check the timing? nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyMc Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Lined up all the points like it says in the Haynes manual (and what other people have said on the forum)....now the car starts but is backfiring and won't idle, it runs rough and seems to be fine once I rev it past 3000rpm but anything under that and it runs crappy....thought it may be a spark plug problem so replaced the distributor and the plugs and it's still doing it.....I'm about ready to push this thing off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooziewhatsit Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 did you spin the engine over one revolution by hand after you put the driver side belt on? So, when it was all done, with the flywheel at the 3 marks, the two cams are 180* apart from each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 If you have a timing light, check the timing that way. It sounds like something is 180 degrees out of wack, which is easy to do. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyMc Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 did you spin the engine over one revolution by hand after you put the driver side belt on? So, when it was all done, with the flywheel at the 3 marks, the two cams are 180* apart from each other? yes....that's what we did..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 It sounds to me one or both of the cams is a tooth off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyMc Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 oh man do I feel like an idiot.....went through the whole thing again, and the Haynes manual (which was highly misleading with their cam diagram)....they were out the 180...guess I should have checked a fourth time, and not settled for a third time. Thank you all so much for your input, you saved my "roo" from being thrown off a cliff and myself from a mental breakdown (not to mention a huge mechanic's bill).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Gald you got it PennyMc. I remember now about hearing there was a problem with the Haynes procedure in the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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