WJM Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 This was not an easy decision... This morning...I have decided that I cannot afford the time and money to truly build the EA82. If i were to it...insane amounts of money would have to be poured into Cometic, Mohle, ARP to get the main components of the engine up to spec. The rest...well, thats easy. The money for thoes 3 items, I cannot afford. It adds up to well over $30,000 USD. USMB: You have the headers, downpipes and all the WRX-STi aftermarket possible to bolt on and go fast until you overheat and blow the weak composit gaskets. With a heavy heart, and EXTREME sadness...I am moving on. All of the stuff i have is going to JWX...the torch is now with him. Take a look at the market place for some items I have for sale soon. Within the next week, an EJ257 will be transplanted into the RX. I will be making 260HP/300+TQ to the ground on a 13G turbo. Stock subaru header, and a stromung exhaust....MegaSquirt EMS. Off to Street Mod I go....FSP will be spared. I've done all I can, which was incredible, with my paperclips and bubble gum to make the engine fast...but the headgaskets just dont cut it. SUBARU learned from that and every engine from then on have multi layer metal...too bad they wont make them for the EA82...I tried already. So long EA82...its been a great relationship. In the end, I just want to go fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Sorry to hear that - next question - did you try copper HG's and if so, why didn't they work - I have heard good things about them, performance-wise, but that the install is really difficult Of course, I am still running with my stock N/A system (well, SPFI converted), with the same asbestos HG's that the car came with in 1985 ..... what is the weight difference between the two engines? do you think it will affect handeling?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky_pete Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 How many threads like this have you made in the past? I can think of at least two others, yet you always seem to come back to the ea82t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subarutex Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Will... I know its hard. I had a hard time making that decision as well. But, just like you, I just can't afford to throw this much money time and again at an engine that may or may not blow up. I need solid reliable power. I thank you for all that you've done with these motors. I feel that if we weren't seperated by a continent we'd be decent friends. Further more, there is no shame to rock an EJ. I know whatever you do it will be a BEAST. I can't wait for that thread. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subyrally Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 come one will, you cant give up on us now. your always the one telling us that the ea82 is great. there are ways around the head gaskets, screw cometic, they just want your money, hell, the used to make gaskets for these engines from the engine builders ve talked to, they all said that o-ringing the block will solve this issue with head gasket failure. and its not too expinsive to get done. c'mon will, dont give in to bad luck or corperate bs from te manufacturers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrwood Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 yea i dont quite understand the reasoning of wanting to try and have someone tool up for some special HG's when you can have the block O-ringed for much cheaper and still be more reliable/stronger then the "special" HG's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Welcome to the Dark Side. EJ power in an EA car will not dissapoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subeman90 Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I am sad to hear you are moving on but I applaud your hard work and grit you put into the ea82t series engine. Welcome to the other side....your gonna love it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Coppers dont work...not enough clamping force to keep them from leaking...hince why the engines need ARP. Even th cometics...they need ARP. add those two, and more power...pistons...Mahle. $...$$ and more $$$. This is the final thread....I'll come back to the EA82 when i get more time and money to 'throw away'..... The EA82 is a fine engine...it just lacks in 2 key elements...headgasket design and clamping force. The EJ....has those...+ very nice stock pistons that can take 575 AWHP at the wheels. At this point, I cannot put up anymore defence...guilty as charged, the EJ is simply a better package now that I actually have 'throw away' parts that I can assemble an ENTIRE STi engine. Who can pass that up? The nextchallenge will be making all of that power get to all 4 wheels. Me thinks RX transmission with its 2 open diffs isnt going to work. 6MT here I come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Good show will. I'm not too far behind you. I have my current motor, which is fairly fresh and I have a low mileage spare. When those are done, I will be joining the EJ crowd. That is unless I have gone back to saabs by then.. But even if I do that, I see an EJ powered late 60s Saab 95 in my future:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Sorry to hear that, but if its gonna take $30,000, i cant say i blame you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrwood Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 you know you can use stock gaskets with a o-ringed block....just got to be careful that, 1. the o-ring is just large enough to be on the outside of the factory wire compression ring on the gasket. 2. o-ring height and gasket thickness should be a matched set to optimize sealing. 3. carefully align the gaskets under assembly. but dont get me wrong, do this to a EJ and have much better results....and if i had an EJ257 laying around... i would have never been concerned with what can and cant be done to an EA engine...hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 no need to oring EJ engines. the stock headbolts and headgaskets are good to 800 AWHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrwood Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 i completely agree EJ's dont need o-ring, i sure would like to get ahold of a EJ for my 87 wagon though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4WDFrenzy Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Will, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your years of hard work and R & D time. You have gone above and beyond to create a Fast and Reliable EA82T. My hat goes off to you my friend. You are truly an inspiration. I'll go down to the store and buy a half gallon of moo juice, and pour some out for your project(I quite drinking alcohol). Thank You. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzle Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 If I had the budget right now, I would throw a wrx or sti setup in my RX for sure, but my funds are still deminished from doing that to my legacy, ..he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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