chazmataz Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 My 84 wagon with 225,4** miles on it, just did a tune-up all the usual parts plus fuel pump, and coil and checked timing and compression. so this is what it is doing: starts up fine go and drive it at first it dies but will start right up dies while driving fires back up on its own, then dies again eventually gets harder to start but none the less it does then dies and won't start back up so puul off the side of the road i try to restart but won't go sit for about a minute with key on then starts dies again do this again starts up. ok so i deside to take side streets home in case it dies again, goes the rest of the way home without problems. Now i drove it to work that morning without problems it did all this on the way home from work which is about 9 miles one way. i have had this car for about a month now first 2 weeks no problems then it started about 2 weeks ago but only once in awhile but only once or twice now its like i described above also when i first got it i ranfuel system cleaner through it for the first 2 or 3 tank fulls because it has been sitting for awhile before i bought it plus my gas milage has been from 17 to 20 mpg, not sure if its related. i have thought about replacing the distributor and running new igntion wires( switch to coil then dist., sparkplug wires already done). so any suggestions where to look next, electrical or fuel???????? has anybody ever had this problem????? thanks, Chaz oh, btw i'm not sure if this has anything to do with it but it seems like this is only untill it gets thoroughly warmed up. this only has happened during the first mile or so, so i don't know if this has anything to do with it. but then again i have only been driving it mostly to work no major trips yet other then a couple of 30 mile oneway to my parents without problems. but it is sperratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 My 84 wagon with 225,4** miles on it, just did a tune-up all the usual parts plus fuel pump, and coil and checked timing and compression. so this is what it is doing: starts up fine go and drive it at first it dies but will start right up dies while driving fires back up on its own, then dies again eventually gets harder to start but none the less it does then dies and won't start back up so puul off the side of the road i try to restart but won't go sit for about a minute with key on then starts dies again do this again starts up. ok so i deside to take side streets home in case it dies again, goes the rest of the way home without problems. Now i drove it to work that morning without problems it did all this on the way home from work which is about 9 miles one way. i have had this car for about a month now first 2 weeks no problems then it started about 2 weeks ago but only once in awhile but only once or twice now its like i described above also when i first got it i ranfuel system cleaner through it for the first 2 or 3 tank fulls because it has been sitting for awhile before i bought it plus my gas milage has been from 17 to 20 mpg, not sure if its related. i have thought about replacing the distributor and running new igntion wires( switch to coil then dist., sparkplug wires already done). so any suggestions where to look next, electrical or fuel???????? has anybody ever had this problem????? thanks, Chaz Start by changing BOTH fuel filters if you haven`t already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazmataz Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 Start by changing BOTH fuel filters if you haven`t already. i have changed out both filters(as in by the pump and under the hood) thanks i guess i should have stated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 i have changed out both filters(as in by the pump and under the hood) thanks i guess i should have stated that. OK,Great.Carb icing sounds like a possibility,especially if the heat stove pipe to the aircleaner is missing in your climate.Check by removing the aircleaner as quickly as possible after stalling and shining a flashlight down the carb. Or if it stalls at idle and restarts easily w/the throttle floored,the carb is flooding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazmataz Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 OK,Great.Carb icing sounds like a possibility,especially if the heat stove pipe to the aircleaner is missing in your climate.Check by removing the aircleaner as quickly as possible after stalling and shining a flashlight down the carb. Or if it stalls at idle and restarts easily w/the throttle floored,the carb is flooding. hey thanks, i forgot all about that. it has been really cold around here lately and if i remember right it has started doing this since it has gotten coldernot like when i first started driving when it was raining and warmer, back in high school my dad's 66 chevelle did that in the mornings, dawm wasn't thinking, thanks i will check next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 He's in Gresham, and that's very close to me, so I doubt he's experienceing any carb iceing - I mean - it's cold here, but not quite cold enough for that. Coldest it's been here in the morning is about 20. I've not experienced any issues with carb iceing ever in this climate. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 He's in Gresham, and that's very close to me, so I doubt he's experienceing any carb iceing - I mean - it's cold here, but not quite cold enough for that. Coldest it's been here in the morning is about 20. I've not experienced any issues with carb iceing ever in this climate. GD Carb icing occurs above 32 degrees ambient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazmataz Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 He's in Gresham, and that's very close to me, so I doubt he's experienceing any carb iceing - I mean - it's cold here, but not quite cold enough for that. Coldest it's been here in the morning is about 20. I've not experienced any issues with carb iceing ever in this climate. GD yeah i have experienced icing here before and that has even been in the spring time with a big v-8, but years ago i had that problem in the mountains at night with my datsun with a weber carb on it didn't have the preheat tube on it and there was a big chunk of ice in the carb. but as i have said i didn't even think about that but it does make sense so next time i will check. thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Carb icing occurs above 32 degrees ambient. Oh - I agree, but I've never experienced it on a Subaru in this climate - that's what I meant. With the coolant running through the manifold to the base of the carb they usually don't get that cold. You might check the coolant flow through the manifold, and to the base of the carb. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazmataz Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 Oh - I agree, but I've never experienced it on a Subaru in this climate - that's what I meant. With the coolant running through the manifold to the base of the carb they usually don't get that cold. You might check the coolant flow through the manifold, and to the base of the carb. GD No i haven't either. well the time that my datsun did it it was forming ice on the venturi which distruped the fuel flow in the carb from the cold air, it had an open air cleaner after fabing a preheat tube from the exhaust manifold it went away, the coolant running through the manifold doesn't neccesarily help in this case because its above the manifold at the top of the carb. it has to do with the cold air coming into the air cleaner which if the preheat tube off the exhaust manifold isn't hooked up will allow this to happen. god i feel so stupid to not think about this before, like last night when this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 No i haven't either. well the time that my datsun did it it was forming ice on the venturi which distruped the fuel flow in the carb from the cold air, it had an open air cleaner after fabing a preheat tube from the exhaust manifold it went away, the coolant running through the manifold doesn't neccesarily help in this case because its above the manifold at the top of the carb. it has to do with the cold air coming into the air cleaner which if the preheat tube off the exhaust manifold isn't hooked up will allow this to happen. god i feel so stupid to not think about this before, like last night when this happened. I have no pre-heat tube on my Weber's, or my Hitachi on my other rig - neither have ever done that. But I suppose it's possible - just seems strange that I've never experienced it. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazmataz Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 well,i'm not sure yet if it is, it just makes sense to me and like i have said its been awhile since i have, like about 15 years or better, thats why i didn't even consider it but if it does do it again that will be the first place i look and if not then the search will be on again. but like i said the first couple of weeks that i had it it was warmer and raining too. well hopefully you won't have to experience it, its kinda weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazisubee Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 dont know how the weather is there but in eastern Wa when it gets cold they put lots of c**p in the gas. my 85 did the same type of thing traced it to lots of water in the gas might check. add some gas dryer. just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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