Dylan86GL10 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Hello all, I have an 86 GL10 Turbo 3AT pushbutton. I am getting all the DR swap parts thanks to Gary from this car: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53368 Late model RX (not sure of year) I have been reading on the swap for several weeks and gone back to just about every post I can find however different people post different things on the parts list. Can someone help me out to make sure this list is correct: DR Transmission Crossmember and long bolts Front half of drive shaft Clutch cable, pedal box, solenoids Flywheel Shifter, linkage and console Front axles - according to Miles full time is 25 spline, AT is 23 spline Not needed?: Rear half of driveshaft Rear end (RX is 3.7 LSD) Cluster (my digi works ok and I don't really care about having a low light or not) Anything else? THANKS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 you will need the axles as well ,since the rx turbo 5spd is 25 splines, all turbo 5spds are 25 splines. all full tim e trannies are 25 spline including the 4spd at and the xt6 tranny the 3at is 23 splines, even turbo. the difference between 3at turbo axles and norm al axles is the 3at turbo axle has a fatter doj, although 23 splines its the sam e diam eter as 25 splines and the doj cup will swap onto 25 spline axles. basically 3at turbo axle is the fattest 23 spline axles you will need the 25 spline the rear diff is the proper ration, but swap in the lsd if the rx has one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 double check the axles - I know the front axles on the 85' MY turbo automatic were 23 spline, the MT tho are 25 spline - you can't just count the bands on the outside of the axle as there were three-band 23 and 25 spline axles the rest looks correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 If the RX tranny has a diff lock, I would use the rear diff as well. And you would certainly need the rear driveshaft if you want 4wd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooziewhatsit Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 ok... one question I've always had in the back of mine when people bring up swapping axles around... are axle spline counts (23/25) only different at the tranny, and not the hub? I presume it's like this, since I've never heard mention of having to change the hubs to match the axles. (I also don't have the stuff here to check myself) thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnW Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 ok... one question I've always had in the back of mine when people bring up swapping axles around... are axle spline counts (23/25) only different at the tranny, and not the hub? I presume it's like this, since I've never heard mention of having to change the hubs to match the axles. (I also don't have the stuff here to check myself) thanks Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan86GL10 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 And you would certainly need the rear driveshaft if you want 4wd. Yeah, I have 4wd now. I'm not asking if I need the driveshaft for 4wd. I'm asking because I believe the AT and MT shaft lengths are different. From other threads, only the front half is different. Can someone confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Yes, there is a difference in lengths. Use the 5spd driveline for the swap. If you need proof, just put the 2 together when your doing the swap and compare. Just make sure you label them so you dont mix them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 the rear half of the driveshaft is all the same lenght. only the front half is different in length depending on the tranny. the rear half contains both u joints. the front half has the carrier. if you takeit off the parts car you might as well take the whole thing or leave it on the diff. keep the old one as a spare should the u joint go out when they say get the crossmember, leave it on the tranny and drop it as a unit from the car. , keep the longer bolts as you will n eed the where its just a body bolt on the AT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Man I tell you, getting old SUCKS. I forgot the EA82 is a 2 peice driveline:rolleyes: CRS X 10:-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Nevermind I noticed the parts list on the link he gave has a 3.7 diff. No need to read farther. Hey... I read that he'll be using a 3.7 rear diff...is that tranny a 3.9? He didn't state (or I didn't read) that the tranny was 3.7. I thought all dual ranges are 3.9, even the FTAWD HEY I SAID DON'T READ any farther!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan86GL10 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Nevermind I noticed the parts list on the link he gave has a 3.7 diff. No need to read farther.Hey... I read that he'll be using a 3.7 rear diff...is that tranny a 3.9? He didn't state (or I didn't read) that the tranny was 3.7. I thought all dual ranges are 3.9, even the FTAWD HEY I SAID DON'T READ any farther!! :-) According to GrossGary, the full time RX has a 3.7LSD rear so the trans is matched up to my stock 3AT turbo rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 According to GrossGary, the full time RX has a 3.7LSD correct. thanks to miles for this list of parts you need: (my comments in parentheses) DR Transmission (out of the car, sitting in the engine bay) Crossmember and long bolts (attached to the trans, have no idea where the bolts are, probably lying on the ground?) Front half of drive shaft (under the car, attached to the rear half of driveshaft, bolts stubborn) Clutch cable, pedal box, solenoids (all still in car, solenoids by drivers side strut tower if i forget to pull them) Flywheel (still attached to motor, i'll have to remove it) Shifter, linkage and console (attached to trans or lying on passengers seat) Front axles - according to Miles full time is 25 spline, AT is 23 spline (bolted to hub, free from trans, unbolt from hub and they'll slide right out) other items: instrument cluster is yours if you want it, take it. is you want the hill holder to work you'll need the brake master cylinder. let me know if you want that, i think i cut through the cable for that, but can send you one off my XT6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan86GL10 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Is the hill holder useful? Seemed other people have said it was too finicky to rely on. What size is the axle nut. The socket for my other cars is a 21/22mm? I think its 32mm for subaru.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85Sub4WD Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 the hill holder is a matter of personal pereference - but you do need some sort of return spring if you aren't using it I think 32 mm is right for the axle nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 All the axle nuts on the front of my Subarus have been 36mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 the axle nut can be 32 or 36, they vary. i've seen both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjdc Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Dylan: I just recently did this swap on my 87 turbo wagon. If you need help just let me know and we can get together. Pm me. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan86GL10 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Dylan: I just recently did this swap on my 87 turbo wagon. If you need help just let me know and we can get together. Pm me. Mike Thanks Mike, where in Va are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I have also done this complete swap in my '89 RX but I went from an 4EAT auto to a RX tranny. Like it was said before, use the whole driveshaft, not just the front half of it. It will make your life so much easier. I got mine from a parts wagon that was a NA d/r 5-speed. Bolted right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjdc Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Thanks Mike, where in Va are you? I'm in Richmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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