dave valiant Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I just finished hooking everything up on the new engine, it will start and idle high, but as soon as I take my foot off of the clutch it dies. It is also smoking like mad. It doesn't smell like coolant but there is alot of it.It is an spfi ea82 in an 87 wagon. Does anyone have any ideas of what I could have done wrong here, please help. I really need this car running. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 the more details you can give the better. what happened to the old motor, details on the new and what you did during the swap? if the old motor had any leakage then there could be coolant/oil in the exhaust still blowing out. can take awhile to get it all out. some initial smoke isn't all that odd if you coated the cylinder walls with assembly lube or excessive oil either. engines can run rough on first start. you put 5 quarts of fresh oil in the motor? distributor is lined up correctly? timing belts aren't off by a tooth (or more). check the timing (if you moved the disty). is the gas bad? how long did the car sit during the swap? days, weeks, months? throttle cables could be sticking (high idle). check for spark at all the plugs. oh - edit/add on - everything is compatible for this swap - sensors, right type of MAF or MAP, ECU and Disty....there are minor differences across year and turbo/non-turbo that could have some affect on a swap. in which case knowing what was in it and exactly where the donor motor came from might help. i'm not up on all the differences but others are. good luck, hope to hear good news when i come back in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave valiant Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 The dis is lined up correctly, it is full of fresh oil,it is a CCRinc motor so the timing belts come lined up,throttle cable is moving freely, has spark to all of the cylinders. The intake and spfi is the same one that was on the old motor. I never thought about the assembly lube smoking, it smells about right for that. Now it wont start at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Hmmm. Throwing any codes? Getting fuel? Is it using any coolant? What if the intake manifold gaskets are bad somehow -- could be burning coolant and possibly have massive vaccuum leaks if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsubaru Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 it is a CCRinc motor so the timing belts come lined up Hope you checked it anyway, just to make sure. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 these things are finnicky with vaccum leaks, i'd check for that if you're not getting any engine codes. i resealed an EA82 a couple years ago (head gaskets and up) and it wouldn't start. finally got it started (very rough and wouldn't stay running very long) and it actually idled long enough for me to run to the motor and start playing with stuff and i noticed one time while leaning over the motor that it idled fine when i leaned on the oil cap???? i replaced the oil cap rubber seal, which was in the reseal kit i just didn't know what it was. the XT6 doesn't have this and runs fine with the oil cap removed, no effect at all. i'm used to the XT6 so i never had a clue why the EA82 ran so terrible with the oil cap off. also be sure the engine wiring harness plugs are seated all the way. i recall an instance of someone not getting it started and turned out one of the plugs didn't push all the way together, those two large plugs can be very tight. also recall another instance of someone bending a pin in one of the connectors so it didn't make contact. i did an XT6 a couple months ago and it wouldn't start. couldn't figure it out and ignored checking the cap/rotor because they were brand new, just installed and i was still getting spark. removed the cap and saw bits and pieces everywhere? i assume the rotor or cap were defective because they were torn to bits inside. the store gave me new replacements for free and the car started. do you hear the fuel pump priming when you turn the key to acc? or at least know for sure you're getting fuel? is the timing waaaaay off? spark plugs on the right cylinders? i'd have a look at timing or just do a compression test, that doesn't take long. compression, spark, gas and it should start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave valiant Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 I am gonna go through and nut and bolt it. Recheck all connections. I did accidentilly hookup the fuel and return lines backwards. I hope that didn't cause damage to the injector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilpd Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 When I put mine, in I totally blew off lining up the first step of the timing, whatever that was, and had to take the engine back out to align it properly. Then, the hook-up to the vaccum solenoid that is at about 7 o'clock down from the carb, what ever that is called, was broke off, and, I had a couple vac hoses crossed. But after a couple of weeks of totally freaking out and reading 3 or 4 Soob books front to back I finally got it. Hope this helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Roberts Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 ... it is a CCRinc motor Assuming it came with their warranty, first thing is to call them and ask what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 i would go with the crossed fuel line idea for spfi the hose off the filter goes to the BOTTOM fitting on the spfi throttle body on turbo its the middle line carb should be obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnW Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 If you put a brand new clutch in it you may need to adjust the cable. The smoking is probably condensation in the exhaust from the previous engine....I assume it blew a head gasket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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