Gl-boost Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 My 87 GL-10 has rust on the door bottoms and just around in general. I think that where the rear sub fram bolts up is some what rusted. Since its a turbo and I love this car I would really like to keep it. I wanted to know how manny of you have patched the rear sub frame area inorder to keep your soob's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82Brat Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Old soobs + salt = rust. I've been fighting the rust monster for years. Every spring it's scrape, sand, treat, prime, paint. I've tried lots of sprays and solutions that promise to keep rust at bay, had it zeebarted, use about three cans of undercaoting a year, everything I can think of. It's a pain, but I love the Brat (bought in new in 82). So I have to keep doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I have repaired the impossible (including very bad rocker panel on a unibody that started bending). Bent and cut pices all by hand and ended up in the hundreds of steel rivets. If I'm not mistaken the rocker ended up a 13 inch wide 60 inch long piece before bent up to fit (surprising how much those bends take up for footage).Used galvanized metal and 50 year caulking by GE to seal imperfections (i couldn't believe the package said "50 year"!). Then in really difficult benders and shapes used thin aluminum . Bondo, and cheap paint finished it up. Wallah! It passed a legal inspection and away i went for 6 more months. Rust and keeping it painted is nearly impossible. I have encountered scenarios seemingly a miracle lasting for a few years with epoxy based or oil based paint or paint that does not use oxygen as a cure (very powerful fumes). I am going that route this year. It can be done . Even a Maine victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrickell Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 FWIW, two items I have found that are great against the evil of rust: #1 is a product called T9 BoeShield. You can get it at bike shops, or some Yamaha motorcycle dealers carry it. It was developed by Boeing aircraft as a spray lube that would stick around. It leaves a waxy coating on things to protect from further exposure. Great stuff. A miracle in a can. #2 is called Rust Bullet. This is great for painting surfaces that are likely to rust. Google it, there is probably a bunch of stuff out there on it. If you live in an area with rust-causing properties, or own a car prone to rusting, you should have these two items on a shelf. When you say the word BOE SHIELD, a little "aaahhhhh" sound emanates from above and a ray of light comes down from the clouds. Really good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gl-boost Posted March 18, 2006 Author Share Posted March 18, 2006 Well ok then I will keep my Gl-10 turbo then. I really love this car its a real nice cruiser and just great daily driver car. I am going to start repairing the body then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Also, check out waxoyl and por15. I have used waxoyl for years, and it stops rust. No good for visible areas, but a lot of the rust comes from inside and the seams where there are layers of metal. POR 15 I just found, and have some, ready to apply. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrickell Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 yes, POR 15 is about the equal of rust bullet. have not tried waxoyl, but will check it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75subie Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 had them, and hated them (not the cars, the RUST:eek: :-\ ) i`m sold on west coast cars, even if you have to pay $500 shipping, it sure beats playing around with rust for months. My AZ brat is one of the cleanest i`ve ever owned, and it was well worth paying for the shipping, here is a pic. as soon as it came from AZ, it was undercoated and treated. Oh, its for sale BTW :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82Brat Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 That's a swweeeeeeet looking Brat! How Much? Undercoated an treated with what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75subie Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 well, i just prepared it for NY weather, cleaned it all out, buffed/polished it by hand with the quality stuff, the paint shined up real nice. it just came from AZ this year. it also has new snow tires on the Mag wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 If I lived in an area where they salted roads (Thank God I don't.), I'd make an underbody car sprayer that I would drive over everytime I parked in the driveway. Oh yeah, and if the car was worth it. -Justin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gl-boost Posted March 18, 2006 Author Share Posted March 18, 2006 Well I have herd mostly about the por 15. I have seen it when finished and it is very shiny and is thick and solid as steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrickell Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 check out http://www.rustbullet.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I'd make an underbody car sprayer that I would drive over everytime I parked in the driveway. That has been one of my "future projects" since I started building our new house yearts ago. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82Brat Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I tried to post pictures of my Brat, But I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do this. Can anyone give me some pointers? And 75 Subie: How much ar you selling your Brat for? Is there an add in the For Sale forum? Thanks, Tonmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobaroo Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 If I lived in an area where they salted roads (Thank God I don't.), I'd make an underbody car sprayer that I would drive over everytime I parked in the driveway. Oh yeah, and if the car was worth it.-Justin. You can wash with water all you want. I won't help much. Salt and Mag Chloride wick their way into all of the microscopic body seams and start the rust process. The only thing that helps is to use something that ALSO wicks into the seams to stop oxygen contact with bare metal. In Canada and Europe, used engine oil is sprayed onto and into car bodies. I've bored out the end of an old paint spray gun and have absolutely saturated the underside of old cars that I've owned with used oil. In time, the old oil drys to a sticky film that actually holds up well and freezes rust in suspended animation. Try to be as environmentally responsible as possible in doing this. I used to use old cardboard to catch the drips, then burned the cardboard. This was better than letting it soak into the ground, I guessed. This was when I lived in New Jersey. Rust problems aren't as bad here in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75subie Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 82Brat, host your pics on www.photobucket.com its easy to use, and easy to link pics from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Another good thing to do is open up all the panels inside the car and spray fish oil on all the metal. Just remember, this stuff stinks.... Its good to do in the tray of a brat. But maybe not good for a wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahag1978 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I'm getting rust! I never drove it during salt season and waited til a few good rains after. I think the bonehead that owed it before me DROVE IT in salt!? I never thought it would be possible and didn't do an undercarriage wash! Arrrrgggghhh! Will the problems ever end?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subieguy Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 All I have to say is thank goodness I don't live on the east coast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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