TheSubaruJunkie Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I have an idea. Just to make sure im going to do this right. In order to run LESS than 7psi (stock EA82 boost) i need to lengthen the arm on the wastegate.... right? -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan86GL10 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I have an idea. Just to make sure im going to do this right. In order to run LESS than 7psi (stock EA82 boost) i need to lengthen the arm on the wastegate.... right? -Brian Correct, cut in half, thread with die, use coupling nut between the two pieces (allows adjustment, longer or shorter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted March 18, 2006 Author Share Posted March 18, 2006 I had an easier idea. I just want to make it longer, I will use my Manual Boost Controller to make stock and more than stock boost, but since Im going with higher compression pistons, I wanna be able to turn down the boost to just above 2 to 3psi if possible. Got pix of my mod, will post them soon. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Brian, I do not think changing the rod length will change when the waste gate opens. How far yes, at what boost pressure? - the spring in the waste gate controller needs weakened so the control arm will move at a lower pressure. Just the opposite of adding a spring for more boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted March 18, 2006 Author Share Posted March 18, 2006 Ah skip, i believe your right. This is the idea i had. While looking at the wastegate setup, i thought instead of modifying the arm, i'd modify the mounting of the wastegate. So I removed the 2 bolts that hold the wastegate to the turbo, found longer bolts and put some washers between the two. key is, its something thats easy to return to stock. I my old turbo as well, along with its wastegate, so maybe I will pull that off and fiddle with the spring inside. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPGsuperchargedBrumby Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 - the spring in the waste gate controller needs weakened so the control arm will move at a lower pressure. Just the opposite of adding a spring for more boost i've seen it done with a spring setup to assist the rod opening the waste gate, it just takes a bit playing with different spring weights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I believe it's a sealed unit as it must respond to pressure. There is a diaphragm separating the internal halves If you change the rod's static position you could prop the wastagate flapper open thus delaying the boost or in essence introduce more turbo lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted March 18, 2006 Author Share Posted March 18, 2006 Yeah, i was just thinking of that. Im going to remove those washers and revert the wastegate to original position. We have a drawer full of different size springs at work... i may have to get a couple and try LPG's idea. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 10 psi FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subeman90 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 10 psi FTW. Then Poof goes the HG right? FTL!!!!!!!11!!!!!1!! sorry had to do it...good going junkie....i wanna see 4 black marks on the pavement after it is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan86GL10 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Brian, I do not think changing the rod lengthwill change when the waste gate opens. How far yes, at what boost pressure? - the spring in the waste gate controller needs weakened so the control arm will move at a lower pressure. Just the opposite of adding a spring for more boost It does, lengthening the rod in effect lowers the static spring pressure (not rate which what you are talking about which will do the same thing). Basically the flapper will "crack open" at a lower psi then with a tight rod (high spring pressure because it is compressed more). We've done this lots of times on many different turbo cars, it works. Junkie's alternate method of the washers works equally well on cars where you have easy access to the wastegate actuator mount. Just not quite as easily adjusted but definately quicker, easier, and cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxrflyboy Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Then Poof goes the HG right? FTL!!!!!!!11!!!!!1!! sorry had to do it...good going junkie....i wanna see 4 black marks on the pavement after it is done. Something else will probably give before all 4 tires do. I see plenty of grenaded WRX trannies from punk@$$es dumping their clutches, trying to spin all 4. First, put four bald drive55/80R13s on before you try a 4-burn. If that doesn't work, you can always try cyclones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Dylan, what you are saying is no doubt true but these WG have very little static pressure on the spring. I went to my turbo department and had a look. I believe you will intro turbo lag instead of lowering the pressure as you say. I like the counter spring idea, mount it on a threaded rod and "dial down" the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan86GL10 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Sorry, guess I am use to T03's that you had to have a pair of pliers to pull the rod back onto the flapper arm. Haven't modded the little itsy one on the GL yet, got a low mile TD04 on the shelf that was going in. Nice pile of turbo's, have worked on several of those before Nevertheless, I've never had any lag issue before and the hybrid on my Neon came with a factory threaded rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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