djbroadus Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 So i took the advice of the helpful subaru tips and bought the accell 8140 whatever and it fried an the "oil cooled" spooged all over my engine compartment. I do not reccomend that coil. bad news bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Some people have had them for years with no problems, while others have them die rather quickly. The stock coil is also oil cooled, so that's not the issue - pretty normal for those types of coils. Accel stuff is by and large junk in my opinion, but thats just me. The issue is what distributor do you have? The resistance of the coil you use must match the resistance of the ingition module - or you'll blow either the coil (usually) or the ignition module. GD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I've been running Accel in all my Subarus. (The three I've had.) One was an '83 GL, '87 GL-10 Turbo, and my '89 RX. There is an old thread discussing the reason why Accel now sucks...something about them ouotsourcing the manufacturing to Mexico. And that Napa has a coil that is the same as the old Accel...maybe try searching, if you are interested. I give Accel two thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack in Norfolk Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I was cooking coils pretty regularly in my Jeep. When I replaced the first fried one with a napa part it died in 2 days. When I used the mopa replacement it lasted for almost a year. A friend reccomended moving the coil further from the engine to reduce the heat. It seems to have helped. 2 years on this coil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I've got 2 years on one with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 mine is on it's third vehicle I must have gotten lucky, 8140c, had it about 3 years '85 wagon '84 brat '89 rx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 THERE! It wouldn't let me editmy last post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshem74 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 hi MALLORY coil working great on my subi, now...3 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyruss Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 yes please do a search. the old accel coils were decent. the new ones are junk. Mine died after less than 10,000 miles. I put the original back in and it runs just fine. there are many accel users out there having trouble with the junk coils they are selling now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 My accel coil lasted 3 months. Bought a MSD Blaster 2 coil, works like a dream. Been there for a year now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Mine lasted only a few months as well. But, I had used them before and never had a problem. So, +1 to the outsourcing aurgument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 So i took the advice of the helpful subaru tips and bought the accell 8140 whatever and it fried an the "oil cooled" spooged all over my engine compartment. I do not reccomend that coil. bad news bears. (Taken from another site) MSD/Accel round coil info MSD Blaster II and III coils. They used to work well. These coils used to be manufactured at Andover Industries, Andover, Indiana, and were of superior quality. In early 2000, production of RED MSD Blaster II and III coils, p/n's 8202, 8203 and 8223, was moved from Andover to a company in Mexico, Pro-Bobbin. When this happened, I started to experience HEI module failures for no apparent reason. Others did as well, and MSD box failures when the RED Blasters were used. It was so untraceable that the problem would only be found by changing the coil. The cause was the insulation materials between the wire windings was deteroratinf and falling away from the coils, causing a layer shorting of the coils, and change of resistance/load on the module/box and failure of same. The 8200 chrome Blaster II coils remained at Andover, and had only the regular failure rates one would expect from a mass produced coil, functioned correctly. Sometime last year, production of the 8223 RED Blaster III coils with the HEI terminal,was returned to Andover. When I finally figured it all out, I switched my recommendations on coils to Accel round Super-Stock, made at Andover. Good quality coils, problems stopped, up until about a month ago. IN the last month, numerous Accel coils, 8140 and 8140C, were coming up either new defective or had operating issues like missing, erratic idle, no performance. This was traced to a move in production in the Accel coils. Accel was sold earlier this year, off the Dana Corporation, and the Accel coil production was moved form Andover to Taiwan. It was these Taiwan Accel coils that were having the issues. I have vended 19 Taiwan Accel coils in the last month, had 16 of them defective/develope problems with under 2 hours run time on them. No more Accel recommendations for me anymore. To identify different Accel round Super Stock coils: Andover Accels have segmented crimping at the top of the case to retain the top, with raised sections around the top. Taiwan Accels have a clean full crimp around the whole circumfrence of the top of the case. AVOID THE ACCEL TAIWAN COILS. Coils and their origins: MSD, 8200, and now, 8223 Blaster II, III series, Andover, good quality 8202, 8203 Blaster II series, Pro-bobbin, Mexico, avoid Accel 8140/8140C, 8145/8145C, Taiwan, avoid A good black coil with the same specs as the good Andover Accel is the NAPA IC12, same specs. AVOID the lesser cost NAPA IC12SB, Mexico made, low quality Crane PS20, PS40, Andover, quality PerTronix, NO, Taiwan, reboxed with USA logo, avoid Mallory round coils, no info Jacobs coils, overpriced Taiwan, avoid Hope this info stops someone from getting a problem coil. Craven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill90Loyale Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 8140c about 4 years. No problems. Keep your OEM coil in the trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik litchy Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 mines been fine too but i carry the oem one along just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsubaru Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I bought an Accel 8140 last year and it lasted 6 months. It was one of the Taiwan units. Thanks to this site, I had the stock coil with me and was up and running in a couple minutes. Subaru coil lifespan = 16+ years. Accel lifespan = 6 months. There are better ways to invest 50 bucks in your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82Brat Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I've got you all beat! the original coil that came with my 82 GL Brat (24 years ago) still works just fine. Crap...I hope I'm not jinxing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 hehe to the guy that said keep your oem coil in the trunk. I got 3 of them in my trunk. Along with my two alternators, 2 spare axles. hehe I keep way too many spare parts in my car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry DeMoss Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I just purchased a MSD Blaster SS and have yet to try it out.I purchased it because it has a little higher output voltage and works just like the regular blaster coil just different mounting.I have never had a MSD coil go out on me.My brother has been using msd blaster coil for over 5years and never any trouble.I would highly recomend these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I got the 8145 Accel SuperStock Coil about two years ago, from www.jcwhitney.com and this Delivers 45,000 volts, and is NOT oil Cooled. it´s a Special Designed Coil for the Off road Use. I Recommend that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 i've had so many accels its not funny.. the 8140's.. only had 2 of them go bad.. like in a week of use.. thats when i switched to MSD blaster coils.. never had any issues with them at all.. never burned an ignition module either.. best of all i get msd coils for like $28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 (Taken from another site)MSD/Accel round coil info ................... Hope this info stops someone from getting a problem coil. Craven EXCELLENT info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastchance Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 times eleventybillion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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