seanski06 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 and didnt feel a difference? maybe i didnt suck enough in the intake....i also used the spray bottle shi* and cleaned out all the black garbage out of the throttle body... when i was driving it around smoking it felt like it was running alot better...but once the smoke went away so did the difference haha maybe i'll try again some other time and try to suck in more before it dies...i used the brake booster hose and as soon as i pulled it off the engine began to idle really rough so next time it'll be pcv valve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 You should use the PCV valve because the brake booster line only really gets one cylinder. Also, you really shouldn't have gotten rid of that black goo. It helps keep carbon from building up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 You might try the small diameter vac tube in the middle of the throttle body just over the throttle plate. Almost no vac at idle and more and more as you open the throtte. Much easier to control the rate at which the stuff enters the intake man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjo Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 i usually just take the tube on the pcv valve, and shove it in the top of the sea foam can, sometimes you have to cut a slit in the plastic top thingy... and if you get a REAL good seal it'll start to crush the can... just pop a hole in the bottom, you'll be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 If ones is to use PCV hose and never done that before - make sure you clean the hose first. Otherwise some crap that might be in the hose will clog PCV valve and it'll stop sucking seafoam in. At least that's what happened to me when I first tried Seafoam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie94 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 i usually just take the tube on the pcv valve, and shove it in the top of the sea foam can, sometimes you have to cut a slit in the plastic top thingy... and if you get a REAL good seal it'll start to crush the can... just pop a hole in the bottom, you'll be good to go. so after you put the hose in the can...do you let the engine idle or bring the rpms up??(seanski06-didn't mean to hyjack with my question.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanski06 Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 no sweat....hyjack away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 If there is nothing wrong you won't see a difference anyway. That stuff might help to remove carbon if you have a carbon problem, or it is a solvent so it might clean some of the crud out. In this case it might help a sticky lifter if you were very lucky. Or it could flush out crud and plug a lifter. Unless you have a carbon problem I doubt you could notice much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimokalihi Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 If ones is to use PCV hose and never done that before - make sure you clean the hose first. Otherwise some crap that might be in the hose will clog PCV valve and it'll stop sucking seafoam in. At least that's what happened to me when I first tried Seafoam. Oh yeah, totally. DO NOT pour seafoam in your pcv hose without first removing it and the valve and cleaning them out!! I almost did but I noticed that it looked pretty dirty. I found out it had a really thick buildup of crap inside it and the valve was almost clogged with crap. I used to seafoam and a screwdriver to clean it out and then put it back on and poured the seafoam in! It killed it instantly. I didn't even put it in fast at all. I found that I had to keep a good 2K RPM via hand on throttle while I did it just to keep the engine alive. It just wanted to die. Mass smoke too. I wish I could have gotten a picture. My mom was like, look at all that smoke! And I'm like, it's alright mom, it's supposed to do that lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanski06 Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 good pics....i'll be sure to clean it i think im going to try the foam again today... anyone have any more news on that skinny hose on top of the throttle body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosDiosDeVerde86 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 You should use the PCV valve because the brake booster line only really gets one cylinder. Also, you really shouldn't have gotten rid of that black goo. It helps keep carbon from building up. i think he meant carbon buildup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 good pics....i'll be sure to clean it i think im going to try the foam again today... anyone have any more news on that skinny hose on top of the throttle body? I dunno it it's news, but I think it's the more controlled way of doing it. As long as the engine idles there is close to no vac (all depends on how thight the throttle plate closes) and almost no liquid enters the intake. The more you open the throtte the more cleaner is sucked in. For my first experiment, I just blipped the throtte and let idle, blip it again and let idle, etc. With this method the engine is in no danger of dying. Since the other end of the tube is hard to get at, I bought a similar inside diameter length of rubber tubing and I just removed the end connected to the throttle body, connected the new tube and plunged the other end in the cleaner bottle (I used a glass container to be able to monitor the speed at whicht the liquid enters the intake). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanski06 Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 i must be an idiot but i bought another can of sea foam...and went at it again instead using the pcv hose and i got no suction.....i even held the hose upward and poured seafoam into it still nothing it all just came out and made a mess...i had a buddy f*** with the throttle too to try and suck it in...but no luck so i just P'd off and used the brake booster hose again and kept the throttle high since i had help this time... what was that info on it only getting one cylinder? i dont understand thanks for all the help...but im just frustrated and gonna leave it alone...i even forgot to let it sit for awhile before driving it as soon as i stalled the engine...i hopped in the seat and smoked the sh*t outta it i couldnt believe that i forgot....hahah what a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Which means your PCV valve is clogged and it might have something to do with it running bad. Quit throwing seafoam at it and fix some of the clogged parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanski06 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 ordered one yesterday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 With a normally operating PCV valve you have to seal off the other end of the hose that you've put the seafoam in. i.e. put your hand over the other end. That will cause the PCV valve to open and suck in the seafoam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanski06 Posted May 19, 2006 Author Share Posted May 19, 2006 when i stuck the other end of the hose in the bottle of seafoam ...the engine just died...although if i woulda kept on the idle at the time it prolly woulda helped...it was sort of a slip in so no one was controlling the idle....i hope someone will learn from these posts before they use seafoam....its the common sense things that'll getcha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsonmh15 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I use the vac line just before the coil pack. I would still like to know how the PCV Valve is the best choice for even distribution instead of the hose I have used. Here are pics my pics: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Lawson, The older EJ22's do not have that hose. Or else I would have used that. So yeah, if you have that hose, use it....other wise use the PCV valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsonmh15 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I find that if I put about 1/3 of a can through the engine normally, then dump the rest into the gas tank and maybe into the engine oil, I can definatly get a difference through throttle response and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanski06 Posted May 21, 2006 Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 yes i def dont have that hose.....only got the small one thats a pita to get off...... on a side note since i have the older 2.2....would that mean that if my timing belt breaks its not gonna bend up my valves? i wasnt sure if one was non-interference and the other wasnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 yes i def dont have that hose.....only got the small one thats a pita to get off...... on a side note since i have the older 2.2....would that mean that if my timing belt breaks its not gonna bend up my valves? i wasnt sure if one was non-interference and the other wasnt The older 2.2 L is non-interference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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