leone Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Just a quick question... Crank pulley on '88 DL 2WD Wagon. There's no hole or place for a roll pin on the back side of the crank pulley. Isn't there supposed to be roll pin between the pulley and the timing belt drive sprockets? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOOBOUTLAW Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Isn't there a bolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suberdave Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 nope i have done a few engines that did not have one. just get that thing tight. i have had one come off. thats not fun... the last one i did, i made a role pin so it couldnt back off. -=Suberdave=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Yeah - there usually is, but being they are V belts on your's, the torque of the bolt will hold it in place just fine. I've made them from the shank of a properly sized drill bit, but on my latest EA82 I just took the belts off a few weeks ago for the first time to find it's been lost prior to being owned by me. Just forget about it and the world will return to being right. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 All of the EA82 crank pulleys I've ever seen have had the pin. I have an EA82 crank pulley I don't need, and it has the pin. Let me know if you're interested, it's worth $5 plus shipping to me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leone Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 nope i have done a few engines that did not have one. just get that thing tight. i have had one come off. thats not fun... the last one i did, i made a role pin so it couldnt back off. -=Suberdave=- Thanks! I had myself convinced someone had put the timing belt sprockets on in the wrong order or something, but I couldn't be sure. My '91 XT has a roll pin between outer timing belt sprocket and the crank pulley, but that car uses the ribbed belt system. Now, the specifications call for 75 ft. lbs. of torque on that crank pulley. Well, I'm going for 100 ft. lbs. Having that dang thing spin off sounds like a crappy way to end a sunny afternoon drive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxsta Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Yeh,thats what happen to me and my girlfriend one afternoon,but luckily we were in a relaxed mood due to prior afternoon activity,s:D .. anyhoo, if it dont have a pin . ill bet a few bucks it will come off sooner or later...especially if you put the aircond on at moderate rpm..you know the way it click,s on and off themostically.....that pulls the pully against the torque of the bolt...some people put 2 rear timing belt drive sproket on and forget that the rear dont have the right pin hole.....cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffast Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Thanks! I had myself convinced someone had put the timing belt sprockets on in the wrong order or something, but I couldn't be sure. My '91 XT has a roll pin between outer timing belt sprocket and the crank pulley, but that car uses the ribbed belt system. Now, the specifications call for 75 ft. lbs. of torque on that crank pulley. Well, I'm going for 100 ft. lbs. Having that dang thing spin off sounds like a crappy way to end a sunny afternoon drive! it happend to me the day i got the new engine in the car. it's kinda cool in that evrey warning light in the car comes on at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 from the EA81 and EA82 engines I've worked on about 50% of them didnt have the roll pin in the pulley. My 86 wagon never had one (only person to every take the pulley off) That crank bolt is supposed to be torq'd to like 100 ft/lbs.. use a lil loctite and that bolt isnt gonna back out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leone Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 from the EA81 and EA82 engines I've worked on about 50% of them didnt have the roll pin in the pulley. My 86 wagon never had one (only person to every take the pulley off) That crank bolt is supposed to be torq'd to like 100 ft/lbs.. use a lil loctite and that bolt isnt gonna back out Yah, locktite! That's what I need. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgd73 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 All I had was one bolt design, kinda strange! what were they thinking! To know the more torque you get out of the little engine, the more it wants to loosen the bolt up every time throttle is given (mine came off on the highway) I torqued it by finding a wedge for flywheel, and ignoring any torque specs with a breaker bar until the car was leaning to the pressure of me and all I could do to tighten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 sounds good. that's what i do. 1/2" socket w/ 3 foot pipe on the handle and crank away. cast iron crank and bolt, not much worry on stripping it, i never have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemaker13 Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Diggin up the dead here! My pully unbolted itself twice yesterday, no pin ya know... It was the A/C- spun it right off! I was going to see about putting a pin, but I guess those nice fellows at Fuji already thought of that... So if I look at it again, I should see a hole for a pin? Sounds great! Anybody know what size that pin should be? Thanks!! It'll be nice to run the A/C again!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Like GD said, find the shank of a drill bit that fits and use that. I like to thread lock the sucker (crank bolt) myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Diggin up the dead here! My pully unbolted itself twice yesterday, no pin ya know... It was the A/C- spun it right off! I was going to see about putting a pin, but I guess those nice fellows at Fuji already thought of that... So if I look at it again, I should see a hole for a pin? Sounds great! Anybody know what size that pin should be? Thanks!! It'll be nice to run the A/C again!!!! I've got a set of turbo pulleys up here with pin and hole, you can have if you are coming up. IIRC, the turbo models all had pins, as well as the XT's, so basically any MPFI. All the rest had no pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemaker13 Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 So you think my pully may be w/o a pin hole? Like, if I wanted to install a pin I would need to drill a hole in the pully? That could be done w/o much trouble... Dan, I'll grab that pully when I come up. How about sunday morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Dan, I'll grab that pully when I come up. How about sunday morning? Sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Mine fell off twice too....once on the highway (I tend to keep my 1/2 inch breaker bar and 7/8 socket in the car now) then I got it home, put Loctite on the bolt, torqued it down, and 200 miles later, no problems... No pin on mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 IIRC, the turbo models all had pins, as well as the XT's, so basically any MPFI. All the rest had no pin. Odd. Not a single one of my EA82Ts have had a pin. The few carb motors I have had have all had pins. I always use a carb crank pulley now - because it has a pin and because it weghs half as much as the turbo pulley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Update. Upon further review, it seems all 85 had pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Update. Upon further review, it seems all 85 had pins. Thats the one year of EA82 car/motor I have never had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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